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1 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | John Reformed | 101177 | ||
But he who believeth not is condemned already. This means that there is no other remedy by which any human being can escape death; or, in other words, that for all who reject the life given to them in Christ, there remains nothing but death, since life consists in nothing else than in faith. The past tense of the verb, is condemned already, was used by him emphatically, to express more strongly that all unbelievers are utterly ruined. But it ought to be observed that Christ speaks especially of those whose wickedness shall be displayed in open contempt of the Gospel. For though it is true that there never was any other remedy for escaping death than that men should betake themselves to Christ, yet as Christ here speaks of the preaching of the Gospel, which was to be spread throughout the whole world, he directs his discourse against those who deliberately and maliciously extinguish the light which God had kindled.(John Calvin) I suppose the past tense of the verb may not prove my point, but neither does it refute it. I appeal to an earlier verse and will attempt to defend my statement from it. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." That which strikes me about v.3 is the use of the verb "cannot see" as oppossed to "will not see". It seems as if Jesus is telling Nicodemus that unless a person is born again he unable to percieve spiritual reality (the Kingdom of God which is real as compared to this world which is a mere shadow of reality). Paul, as well, wrote in 1 Cor 2:14 "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised." It is also a fact that God is omniscient and knows the end from the begining. Therefore He knows (without getting into how He knows; election or fore-looking)who will not believe. Those who do not believe can be said to be "condemned already" by virtue of God's omniscience. "The former is a Calvinistic spin." I will not be drawn in to a topic that is "...strictly forbidden on this StudyBibleForum." If indeed you are in a position of some authority, you should be the last one to critisize or open a door to debates of this nature. If I, a mere user, were to say "arminian spin" or "Southern Baptist spin" you would be quick to correct me. Maybe even report me as an abuser! Let's be fair with each other; Shall we? If you want to accuse me personally of spinning...fine, I can defend myself with scripture...but if I defend calvinism I am in violation of the rules. You know that better than I. John Reformed |
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2 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | Hank | 101180 | ||
John Reformed - In no way am I inviting you to a doctrinal duel over John 3:18. You made a statement. You cited this verse to back up your statement. It does not back up your statement. I pointed that out. All that was necessary of you was to admit candidly that you erred. Instead of that, you dragged into the discourse a lot of unnecessary smoke and mirrors, including the ridiculous insinuation that I am exempt from the rules of the Forum but you are not. --Hank | ||||||
3 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | John Reformed | 101182 | ||
Dear Hank, I find the term "calinistic spin" offensive. It is a derogatory remark that offends a group of christian brothers and sisters of yours. By your use of that term you characterize all calvinists as spinners of Scripture, when in fact, Calvin himself, would have corrected me for not including other, clearer evidences to buttress my statement. If you want to correct me, fine. Just be a bit more sensitive to the spirit of the rule, which is the nurture of brotherhood. Smoke and mirrors? Of what good is critisism without explanation? It may serve the flesh but not the spirit. Where have I erred? John |
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4 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | Hank | 101185 | ||
John Reformed - "Where have I erred?" you ask. In post # 101168 I stated clearly and precisely wherein you erred. Did you or did you not err? If you didn't put a Calvinistic spin to his verse, John 3:18, then what would YOU call it? --Hank | ||||||
5 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | John Reformed | 101189 | ||
Dear Hank, Comparing scripture with scripture. Eph 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, That is the condition of all men prior to belief in Christ. If they continue in this condition they will die spiritual corpses, and their condemnation will be realized in fact. The only way I am wrong is if men are not condemned in Adam. 1 Cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. If that's spin, unspin it for me please. What is your understanding of the condition of men prior to faith in Christ? John |
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