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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: THE CROSS |
Bible Note: Hank Officially, I have only been a "Calvinist" for about 7 months now. I had previously basically believed the "reformed" way (unknowingly), although I've never gone to a Calvinistic church in my life. Of the 3 churches I've called home, all were very Arminian. But about 7 months ago a friend of mine challenged me on the issue of the scope of the atonement, something I had not previously considered in much depth, and I realized I was grossly inconsistent in my understanding of the Biblical doctrine of the atonement. So I conceded after many, many sleepless nights trying to reconcile Scripture with fleshly instinct. Instinct tells me I'm in control of my life, the Bible tells another story. Perhaps you've missed it in my previous posts, but I have frequently qualified my opinions as being open to debate and scrutiny. I'm as prone to being wrong as anyone! All I ask is for honest, intelligent discussion of the issues. That's it. But for some reason it's tougher than boiled owl to keep any discussions from getting convoluted and sidetracked. Questions are constantly ignored and dodged (although I'm sure not always on purpose) and it seems like very little consideration is made of the Calvinist position. If you want to go play somewhere else, that's fine with me, but the invitation stands open indefinitely for you to come chat with me in the future. I care about properly dividing the Word because it is a Biblical mandate. If I come across what I find to be incorrect teaching, I will ask questions. Maybe I'll help to correct the issue, or maybe I'll be corrected. Either way, truth will prevail. I don't always agree with you, but for the most part I've enjoyed the fellowship with you. Honestly, I sometimes feel like you are very disrespectful to others (especially Calvinists) and tend to speak in a condescending and pedantic tone. Perhaps we all tend to do that in a way. I think sometimes the naked words on the screen do little to convey the full impact of the intended message. Other times, let's fact it, you and I get frustrated with each other and break out the morter and hand grenades. It's expected, although I hope in the future, if we have future contact, we can be more patient and gentle with each other. But I can understand the desire to simply shake hands and go our seperate ways (I get to walk off into the sunset!!). Best wishes in the future Hank. In Christ, JIBBS 1 Cor. 12:13 |