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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: THE CROSS |
Bible Note: Hello Jibbs, You asked, "Your words make man out to be an innocent victim of an unjust God! Don't you realize that all men, you and I included, are at enmity with God prior to being saved (Rom. 8:7; Eph. 2:15-16) nor can we desire to be saved in our sinful (natural) condition (1 Cor. 2:14, Rom. 9:16; John 1:13; John 3:5-8). Don't you understand that NO ONE deserves to be saved??" Sinful man is born without hope of attaining eternal life, condemned, but through Jesus Christ we all have been provided a way of escape! My statement does not indicate a lack of awareness of fallen man's deserved destiny of hell, but rather my faith in His provision of eternal life, and my lack of understanding how one could believe Jesus Christ's blood is not available anyone who believes and accepts Him as saviour. Ephesians 2:11-13 11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. No, man is not an innocent victim of an unjust God. But the God I know will not offer salvation ot one and not to another. He will condemn the ones who reject Jesus to eternal punishment but not without opportunity to repent. To give one opportunity and not all is unjust. "In short, Calvinists DO believe we have a choice to make, however, where we differ from Arminians is on how that choice comes to fruition." "Let us not forget for a moment that had God not regenerated our hearts so that we could believe (Titus 3:5) we, too, would still be in our sins and remain His enemy." 4 But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for MANKIND appeared, 5 He saved us,not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. I hear..God SO LOVED mankind...He alone in His mercy and grace provided a saviour, Jesus Christ..that through faith in HIM, Jesus Christ, we are enabled to be regenerated and renewed by the Holy Spirit. You seem to be saying we believe after this renewal..however I believe we are renewed or regenerated/born again after we BELIEVE and ACCEPT Jesus. Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brethren, what shall we do?" 38 Peter said to them, "REPENT, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 2 is a continuation of the same topic, and chapter one does not say God does not seek man, it says man does not seek God. I must Go...time is up. Purhaps we can continue this later. God bless |