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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: THE CROSS |
Bible Note: Greetings Jibbs! If you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. I said that I could produce verses which actually say what I am saying. Where are the verses which say that Christ only died for some? I can show you many that says He died for all. The only problem is the Calvinistic viewpoint will not allow that meaning so they are re-interpreted. Where are the verses which say that God wills some to be lost? I can show you where God says that He doesn't will any to perish, but all to come to repentance. But, the Calvinistic viewpoint will not allow that, so it is re-interpreted. Where are the verses which say that regeneration precedes faith? I can show you where Scripture says that we believe and then are saved. But...You get the picture. I have acknowledged that you have verses which you believe teach a particular thing, but they never quite actually say it. Why? I love you brother, but I am finally coming to see what so many have told me - that this debate is pointless. Even if I showed you a verse which said that God elected all men, you wouldn't believe it. :-( So, until such a time as anyone can produce a verse which actually states what Calvinists teach, I will continue to believe in a God that so loved the world, that He gave His only Son to atone for the sins of the world - a God who does not want anyone to perish, but calls all men to repentance. If that is outrageous, then so be it! To me, that is good news! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |