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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: Which proposition is scriptural? |
Bible Note: Hello again John, You said: "Paul is saying that the ones which God calls are the ones that He justifies. If we take Paul literally (as I think we should in this case) he is saying that all who are called are saved!" You came to an incomplete conclusion because you left out a piece of the scripture: "...those whom He foreknew, He also predestined ... and these whom He predestined, He also called ..." Notice the order of Romans 8:28-30: 1. He foreknew 2. He also predestined 3. He also called 4. He also justified 5. He also glorified "But, I would prefer to keep a narrow focus on my original question, if possible, and not get myself side-tracked into election or other like issues." No, it is not possible to "not get myself side-tracked into election" when you bring this scripture into the discussion. Foreknowledge (1) and predestination (2) are what Paul is building on here. So I would rewrite your conclusion as: "Paul is saying that the ones which God foreknew (1) are the ones that He justifies (4). If we take Paul literally (as I think we should in this case) he is saying that all who "He foreknew" are saved!" I believe in election by foreknowledge Pastor Glenn |