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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: Is God omnipotent? |
Bible Note: John Reformed: Some few days ago I vowed to myself that I would never again be a party to any of these dreadfully repetitive debates on Calvinism. Then I read such statements as you continue to make and my resolution takes wings. ..... In a recent post to you I made the statement that I did not consider Calvinism an enemy of Christianity and I stand by that statement. Hyper-Calvinism of the sort that you promote on this forum is another matter, and I do not consider it in such a favorable light at all. I quote from your post #89380 "After all, it is not a foregone conclusion that the jailer was seeking salvation. In fact the narrative seems to say that he was seeking to be saved from the ire of his superiors." Now, John, let's look at what the text actually says and cast from our thoughts what it "seems to say." In Acts 16:30 the jailer asked Paul and Silas, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" In Acts 16:31, they said to him in direct answer to his question, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Now, John, if you are right, then Tim is wrong and I am wrong and, most importantly, Paul and Silas were wrong too. The passage doesn't "seem" to say anything. It says it in clear, plain language that a child would be able to understand. ..... You make another curious observation in your post, to wit: "Saving faith is the evidence of regeneration, not its cause." If you are right, Paul and Silas are again mistaken about the sequence. They answered the jailer, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Notice please the order in which they placed the words 'believe' and 'saved.' Now I'm satisfied that you will be able to parse some words, analyze some syntax to suit your purposes, and manage to wiggle your way out of your web in much the same way that you've told us over and over how 'all' doesn't mean 'all' and 'world' in John 3:16 means 'the elect' and all that sort of other fancy dance and nimble foot work with which you have tried to persuade forum members that hyper-Calvinism is the only show in town. I've asked it before and I ask it again, when is enough enough? I've reviewed a large quantity of your posts and discovered that you really haven't said anything new about Calvinism on this forum in two years, more or less, but you have said essentially the same things over and over. If you insist on continuing to post the same things over and over, why not save yourself a lot of unnecessary typing by simply copying your old posts? I really don't think anyone would know the difference. --Hank |