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1 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Morant61 | 89894 | ||
Greetings Jibbs! I understand that what you believe about election has a signficant impact upon how you interpret Scripture. The question is, where is 'election' defined in Scripture? Or, more to the point, where is your definition of 'election' found in Scripture? The term 'elect' is used in a descriptive sense in Scripture. But, most people will be surprized to find out that it is never actually defined in Scripture. So, once again, much of the import given to the word is speculation, not actually based upon a Scripture verse or passage which actually defines the term. Whoops! I almost forgot your question. No! Someone who dies without beieving in Christ is not elect. But, election is not a limited to certain people, but is an election of grace extended to all men. It is primarily (in the words of Robert Shank) corporate, not individual, and it is not unconditional. If you would like to read some of my past posts on this point, just search for my user name and the words 'corporate' and 'election'. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89954 | ||
Tim The word ELECT is used MANY times in the Bible, particularly in the NT to signify PEOPLE. Now, these people are not just one big collective group but also are each ELECT individuals. Elect individuals gathered together comprise an elect group. But the emphasis is on elect as a personal individual basis signifying a special relationship between specific men and God. Therefore, the "election of grace" argument is a moot point. Please be honest with Scripture. The Bible is not Webster's dictionary. There are many doctrinal issues we must interpret and define by consistent exegesis and inferrance. Just because it's not specifically defined doesn't mean it's not true. The trinity is a good example of this. My friend, you've deferred to the search thing before, and I must confess I've had no success digging anything up in the past with that method. So I'll just have to pass on that. I don't know how you can call election corporate in light of verses like the golden chain, Romans 8:28-30: Rom 8:28 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose. Rom 8:29 For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: Rom 8:30 and whom he foreordained, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Have a good weekend, Tim! JIBBS |
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