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1 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89698 | ||
Dear Tim You're right, please forgive me. That was stupid and utterly Calvinistic of me to look at what the words actually IMPLIED and respond to the implication instead of the statement itself. Put it this way Tim. I've tried and tried to get you to be honest with the text and CONTEXT, yet you want more than anything to hold on to your interpretations as absolute rule. But you don't give any solid explanations or definitive rebuttals of the reformed arguments. That's fine, I can't force you to see something you don't see. BUT, the Reformed view makes absolutely perfect sense to me and many others and I don't have to do anything more than keep the CONTEXT of Scripture in my heart and mind when attempting to understand it. I couldn't interpret the Bible and come to an Arminian view without being dishonest with myself. If there is sin in that, than so be it. I know in my heart that God has me seeking absolute truth so I have nothing to be afraid of when someone confronts my understanding of Scripture. In fact, I pray that He brings others into my life to help teach and correct me when I'm wrong. I pray that He always gives me a mind ready to learn and a heart willing to be taught. I see the Bible as a beautifully adorned landscape. On the surface, it boasts the most amazing array of wonders and majesty. Yet below the surface their lies even more--treasures of gold and diamonds and pearls. Sometimes you gotta dig to find the loot. In Christ, JIBBS PS Regarding the silly statement about God electing all men (which you obvious believe, in spite of reality) please read and ponder this: Mat 24:31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now tell me Tim: ARE ALL MEN ELECT? OHHHH...which reminds me..you wanted verses showing that Jesus only died for the elect...HERE ONE IS AGAIN: Joh 10:14 I am the good shepherd; and I know MINE OWN, and MINE OWN know me, Joh 10:15 even as the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father; and I lay down my life FOR THE SHEEP. Let me guess...you'll quote "we all like sheep have gone astray"...therefore, ALL are sheep, right? Ok, Tim, if you say so ol' buddy. If I'm getting too sarcastic, let me know. I promise you it's in good fun. No hard feelings. |
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2 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Mickodemus | 89846 | ||
Jibbs, What you have said here to Tim is my sentiments exactly. We have tried time and time again to show different view points of God's elect and His calling to those predestined to salvation. What alot of people don't understand is that the Father gives us the faith to believe because we can do NOTHING to gain salvation, not even have faith unless the Father reveals himself to us, because, once again, "All our works are as filthy rags." and "There is none that does good, no not one." Acts 2:37-39 "And hearing this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and to the other apostles, Men, brothers, what shall we do? Then Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all those afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call." First of all, who cut their heart made of stone and put a heart of flesh within? Could God be working in their life first? And second, the promise is made to them and their children and those afar off, as many as the Lord has called. (those who have ears to hear, let them hear.) I enjoy your arguments and conversation, Jibbs. In Christ, Mike |
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3 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Mickodemus | 89919 | ||
Jibbs, What you have said here to Tim is my sentiments exactly. We have tried time and time again to show different view points of God's elect and His calling to those predestined to salvation. What alot of people don't understand is that the Father gives us the faith to believe because we can do NOTHING to gain salvation, not even have faith unless the Father reveals himself to us, because, once again, "All our works are as filthy rags." and "There is none that does good, no not one." Acts 2:37-39 "And hearing this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and to the other apostles, Men, brothers, what shall we do? Then Peter said to them, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ to remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all those afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call." First of all, who cut their heart made of stone and put a heart of flesh within? Could God be working in their life first? And second, the promise is made to them and their children and those afar off, as many as the Lord has called. (those who have ears to hear, let them hear.) I enjoy your arguments and conversation, Jibbs. In Christ, Mike |
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