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1 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 88823 | ||
Hi gracefull! I noticed you have made a few posts since I replied to this one over the weekend and was wondering if you've had a chance to read and contemplate my response to you. I'm eager to hear from you. In Christ, JibbyJee |
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2 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | gracefull | 88968 | ||
Hello JibbyJee, I was reading and making notes on your two posts, and realized my response was going to take some time. There were several major points you made that to me must be addressed. First, you said that faith comes AFTER regeneration..and secondly you stated that we are unable to even recognize we need a saviour...Both of these will take time, prayer and study to address. I will come back to you on this. God bless |
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3 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 88987 | ||
Dear gracefull: Thank you for the update. There is no need to rush an answer. I'm here everyday and don't plan on going anywhere, so take all the time you need to study the Bible and pray about the issue. I know how hard it can be to think outside our own "box" (I've only been 'reformed' for 6 months), so I will be happy to answer any questions you may have to the best of my ability. Also, here is a link on regeneration that I hope you will scrutinize under the microscope of Scripture. It was a significant clencher to my change of mind and admission that my view of synergism (regeneration as a result of faith) was wrong. I hope it helps you. Here's the web address: http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/onsite/sproul01.html In Christ, JIBBS |
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4 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Morant61 | 89033 | ||
Greetings Jibbs! I was curious after reading your post my friend, where exactly does Scripture specify that regeneration precedes faith? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Mickodemus | 89036 | ||
Hope you don't mind, but I would like to give a note/answer on this.... We see so many times in scripture that people cannot choose the Good things of God unless they were given to them by the Father. (Matt 11:25-27) Jesus reveals himself to us by giving us eyes to see and ears to hear (John 10:26-30) Take note of verse 26, you must be a sheep of the Lord to hear his voice. The only way to hear and follow is to be regenerated first! Look at what happened to Peter when Jesus asked, "Who do men say that I am?" (Matt 16:13-20) taking note in verse 17, "....Blessed art thou Simon Bar-jo'na: for flesh and blood did not reveal it unto thee, but my Father that is in Heaven." It is the same way with us, we have to be regenerated by the Holy Spirit first in order to have faith/trust or to claim that He is our Messiah and Lord of our life. Or when Christ says in John 15:16 "You have not chosen me, But I have chosen you." You can't choose to believe or have faith by something within you. We are all born sinners and cannot choose the things of God (have faith) unless God makes you one of His first (re- generation) Probably the best verses to exemplify regeneration before faith are found in Rom 3:11 "there is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God." Rom 3:12 "They are all gone out of the way, they have together become unprofitable, there is none that does good, no, not one." Rom 3:23 "For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. So, the ones who do the good things of God were given to them by the Holy Spirit first. Because, remember, "Our works are as filthy rags" (Isa 64:6) We can do nothing if it were not given to us by the Father first. Rom 8:8-9: So then they who are in the flesh cannot please God. Rom 8:9 But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. You cannot believe or be one of His unless you have been regenerated first. Rom 9:11 "for the children had not yet been born, neither had done any good or evil; but that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who called,.." God has to call in order to beleive. Rom 9:16 So then it is not of the one willing, nor of the one running, but of God, the One showing mercy. This reminds me of Rev 3:20, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him and he with Me." Does everyone hear the knock? Apperently not. Only His sheep/elect hears and opens the door. Rom 10:17 "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Again we have ears to hear only if given by the Father to hear. Matt 13:10-16 And the disciples said to Him, Why do You speak to them in parables? He answered and said to them, Because it is given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but it is not given to them. For whoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance. But whoever does not have, from him shall be taken away even that which he has. Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not; nor do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which said, "By hearing you shall hear and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see and shall not perceive; for this people's heart has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and they have closed their eyes, lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." But blessed are your eyes, for they see; and your ears, for they hear. (mkjv) My favorite verses are found in Eph 2:8-10 They read: "For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them." Note, Not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.....the faith is given to you by the Holy Spirit. Please pray about this and keep searching the scriptures and try to prove this wrong. You'll find out that what I say here is true. In Christ; Micko |
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6 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | Morant61 | 89038 | ||
Greetings Micko! Thanks for the response my friend! However, not one of the verses you quoted says, "Regeneration precedes faith". In fact, not one of them even mentions the two concepts in the same verse. The reason I asked the original question is simply this: To often we make statements that are based upon assumptions, but present them as though they are Biblical statements. No Scripture that I know of directly states that regeneration occurs before faith. This is a theological assumption. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | John Reformed | 89043 | ||
Dear Tim, I would appreciate it, if you would consider replying to the following: In the light of all of Scripture, which proposition do you suppose is the most reflective of the truth? Despite being "dead in sin", "without hope", and "loving darkness rather than light" fallen man still has the ability to choose spiritual good (Christ). or, Fallen man is absolutely unable to choose spiritual good (Christ)because he is "dead in sin", "without hope", and "loving darkness rather than light" and is totally dependent on God's mercy and grace? Please supply scriptural proof to substantiate your answer. Your Brother in Christ, John |
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8 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Parable | 89054 | ||
Both are true. Romans 10:10a "For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified..." "that YOU believe" means we do it, not God. However, we cannot believe without faith, which is a gift from God... Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- This means that faith is not a work, because all we can do to get it is accept it from God. However, once received, it is ours to embrace, or not, as we choose... 1 Cor 16:13b "stand firm in the faith" Parable. |
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9 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | John Reformed | 89060 | ||
Dear Parable, Thanks for your response! You said in answer to my question: "both are true" and Your support was Rom 10:10a and Eph 2:8. But, I must confess that I am perplexed by what you said. How is it that one may be able and unable at the same time? Rom 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. But the Bible also says in Luke 6:45 "The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart. Given the undeniable truth that no man is good (God alone is good), and bearing Rom 10:10 and Luke 6:45 in mind, how is anyone able to believe unless God changes his heart first? I believe Paul addresses this in Eph 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;" "saved...not of youselves"! God Bless, John |
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10 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Parable | 89066 | ||
Heres an analogy of what I believe.... God gives us freedom to choose and the ability to walk. Eventually, we come to a door that leads to Him. We cannot open the door ourselves, so He opens it for us. So that our choice to be with Him (or not) can be meaningful, it must be genuinely ours and ours alone. So, while we depend on God for our freedom to choose and the ability to walk, we are the only ones with the ability to align our will with His or not. |
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11 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Pastor Glenn | 89069 | ||
Parable, Maybe what you were trying to say is based on this scripture: Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. |
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12 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Parable | 89072 | ||
Certainly this applies, yet in this analogy, it is Christ who knocks and we open the door for Him to walk through it to us. All we do is open the door and let Him in. I think my original analogy was closer to "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." -- Matthew 7:7 |
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13 | Which proposition is scriptural? | John 3:16 | Pastor Glenn | 89079 | ||
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." -- Matthew 7:7 That is very good, Parable. Pastor Glenn |
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