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1 | How do you respond to these passages? | 1 John 2:2 | Morant61 | 7030 | ||
Greetings Joe! 1) Accomplished objective fact: I understand where you are coming from. I just disagree with your conclusion that an unlimited atonement must necessarily mean that all will be saved. This is a good illustration of why some doctrines are difficult to discuss. You and I have slightely different baggage attached to words and don't always see word meanings in the same light. But, this is why we communicate! 2) Concerning the issue of nations. Just a slight clarification and challenge. I don't see Romans 9-11 and Ephesians 1 as dealing with the election of nations. I see them dealing with the issue of corporate election in Christ. The nations issue is an example of how God's purpose of election is carried out. Romans 9 is (in my view) an argument for God's sovereign right to include anyone He wishes into the elect body of Israel. Here is my challenge: I can understand that some might accuse me of interpreting Romans 9 in this way simply because of my theological bias. In my view, it is demanded by the text. So, here is my challenge (or question): Why do all the quotes used from the Old Testament in Romans 9 deal with God's choice of and use of nations, and not individuals? Look at each quote used in Romans 9 and see if in it's original context the quotes referred to individuals or nations! 3) Concerning 2 Cor 5:20: I appreciate your honesty here. No matter which way you look at this verse (Calvinism or Arminianism), I don't think it is addressed to Paul's audience. Rather, I think it is a summary of the message of reconciliation that Paul preaches to the world. The same message that all of us who are compeled by the love of Christ should be preaching. (This would be a great verse for your teens on their missions trip!) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | How do you respond to these passages? | 1 John 2:2 | Ray | 9085 | ||
Hi Tim, I would like to see a continuation of your discussion so that you get into the idea of what happens to everyone once they realize that they are reconciled to God. In other words, going on in Romans 5:21 to obedience and eternal life; and further, to 6:22 and sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. You talked about receiving the abundance of grace in Romans 5:17. How do the grace and righteousness and reigning in life compare with verse 21 where grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life. I see two things in verse 17, grace and the gift of righteousness. I see two things in verse 15, grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man. I see two things in Romans 5:10; the death of His Son, and our being saved by His life. Have I said anything clearly enough to comment on? |
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3 | How do you respond to these passages? | 1 John 2:2 | Morant61 | 9103 | ||
Greetings Ray! I think I follow you! I just woke up, so I may be a little fuzzy yet! Romans 5 definitely includes both the concept of a forensic justification and a continuing relationship in this life. In other words, not only does a legal transaction occur at salvation (we are declared righteous), but the grace of God continues on to give us the ability to reign even in this life. This is where chapter six comes into the picture. I have been doing a study on sanctification and I have been thinking about posting a discussion about Romans 6. If I do, I would appreciate your comments. If I have missed the boat, let me know! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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