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NASB | 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 2:2 And He [that same Jesus] is the propitiation for our sins [the atoning sacrifice that holds back the wrath of God that would otherwise be directed at us because of our sinful nature--our worldliness, our lifestyle]; and not for ours alone, but also for [the sins of all believers throughout] the whole world. |
Subject: Receive? |
Bible Note: Tim, I may have to aswer you one question at a time, because of the demands on my time. 1). "The first question hinges on a Calvinistic understanding of Total Depravity. Arminians believe in Total Depravity, we just don't make the jump that 'dead' in sin means unable to respond. Eph 2:1-3 "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest." Rom 8:6,7 "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so". Rom 5:12 'Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned". There are many other verses that support the total inability of man to will that which is pleasing to God. You will also note the the verses I chose are didactic. The meaning does not need to be deduced. they are clear in themselves. I say this in love: Who is the one doing the leaping? May Our Discourse Bring Praise to Our King. Your Brother John |