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NASB | 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 John 2:2 And He [that same Jesus] is the propitiation for our sins [the atoning sacrifice that holds back the wrath of God that would otherwise be directed at us because of our sinful nature--our worldliness, our lifestyle]; and not for ours alone, but also for [the sins of all believers throughout] the whole world. |
Subject: Receive? |
Bible Note: Greetings John! As you well know, there are a number of forms of Calvinism, and many of them do believe that man has no will unless it comes from God. However, that really isn't the important part. The question I asked pertained to your analysis of Arminianism. You said, "The doctrine of "free will choice" implies that God does everything He can to pursuade man to turn from his rebellion and to surrender to Christ. But man has the power to thwart God's best efforts. Rebellious humanity triumphing over their King! The King can only stand by and weep. No, No, No! Do you really believe That God almighty does not possess the wherewithal to overcome the stubborn rebellion of mere man? Or maybe He withholds His might to make it a fair fight? If so He does them an injustice by doing so." Yet, Mt. 23:37 is an example of what you claimed could not happen. God willed something for man, but man resisted God's will. So, where is the inherent flaw in saying that God desires all to be saved, holds out salvation to all, and that man must respond to that offer, since Mt. 23:37 provides us with an example of just such a case? Just for futher discussion, in your understanding of sovereignty, where did sin come from? Adam and Eve had no sin nature. Surely God did not created Satan evil. So, where did sin come from? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |