Subject: Mark 16:16 what does it say? |
Bible Note: You wrote: "So basically what you are saying is God owes it to us to save us?" I do not see how in the slightest you could get that out of what Tim said. God doesn't owe us salvation. That is the very meaning of the concept of GRACE. When God saves sinners, we get the exact opposite of what we are owed. "My friend I am not trying to twist your words but you make it sound like before you do anything for the Lord He's going to have to save you first. Friend it never has worked this way and never will. God has given to us all He is going to." My friend, that is the only way it CAN work. "For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." --Romans 5:6-8 "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." --Romans 8:6-9 What in there gives you the idea that the unsaved can or want to do anything for the Lord before we are saved (including baptism)? And is that all God is going to do? He is just waiting, standing by to see what we will do? Is that really Scriptural? If you think so, we can deflate that, too. --Joe! |