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NASB | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know [with great confidence] that God [who is deeply concerned about us] causes all things to work together [as a plan] for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to His plan and purpose. |
Subject: Is God's will prosperity/healing always? |
Bible Note: Inmyheart The reason you got labeled as Word of Faith is you defended it in one thread and you expound it's teachings here. Your confession that you don’t even know what Word of Faith is does not surprise me, I suspected as much What has happened to you and many others is you have listened on Christian TV to the more exciting and flamboyant teachers who for the most part are Word of Faith. They have been ever so carefully slipping their half truths and falsehoods into their teaching and you have been slowly accepting that teaching as truth. They do this not so much to deceive you but to keep you watching. Everyone will watch and send money to someone that tells them they never need to be sick, can have the riches of their desires and nothing bad will ever come upon them if only they have enough faith. They then cover their trail by proclaiming anyone that doesn’t receive these things has brought the consequence on themselves either through a lack of true faith or un-confessed sin. Now to Paul, most assuredly Paul was stoned as unto death however what you described is the modern Islamic way of carrying out a stoning rather than the Biblical way. In biblical times the person to be stoned was carried out of the city and thrown down into the place where they dumped their trash. People would then gather around a throw rocks at the person until all movement stopped and the person was dead. In the Acts 14 account of Paul’s stoning it appears they didn’t even bother taking him out of the city but stoned him and then dragged him out. However whatever occurred I’m sure Paul did carry scars from the ordeal. However your theory is not supported by scripture as Paul mentioned in Galatians 4:13 but you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I preached the gospel to you the first time. He calls it an illness rather than an injury. Also notice in Galatians 6:11 See with what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand. This verse gives some indication that Paul was having problems with his sight and could be tied back to verses 4:13-16. Some scholars believe Paul’s “thorn in the flesh” was chronic ophthalmia, a disease of the eyes not too painful but at times repulsive to the onlooker. The onset of Paul’s ailment, 14 years before this time (2 Cor. 12:2), would have coincided with his entrance into Galatia, which had been occasioned by some sort of physical infirmity (Galatians 4:13-15; Galatians 6:11). Willmington’s Bible handbook discussion on 2 Cor 12:7-10. Your charge that by claiming Paul had an affliction extinguished many people's hope for receiving healing from God is without merit. In any case is it be better to pretend Paul, Timothy, Trophimus, and Epaphroditus were never sick in an effort to convince others they shouldn’t be sick.. Isn’t that basing faith in a lie? Faith in God has to be much more than what is happening around us. It has to based in a belief that God is sufficient to see you through whether He heals you of some disease of holds your hands as you walk though it. Praying for you EdB |