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NASB | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know [with great confidence] that God [who is deeply concerned about us] causes all things to work together [as a plan] for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to His plan and purpose. |
Subject: Is God's will prosperity/healing always? |
Bible Note: Hi stones. This post will be brief but I would like to take a moment to acknowledge you post and purhaps address a couple of you statements. Why did Jesus heal? Was it to establish His identity and set an example of compassion and service? Let me ask you a question? Did sickness come as a result of the fall of man thus the entry of sin in the world? Does God make us sick? Is satan God's instrument of discipline? The question asked of Jesus was 'was this man blind because he was being punished for his own sins or did the punishment for the sins of the parents fall on this man? There is an Old Testament scripture that speaks of generational curses(which I am NOT discussing here) but where escapes me at the moment. Jesus said neither. But to say that this sickness was the will of God is a stretch. Let me give you what I hear in this scripture. This sickness is not a result of personal sin, nor is it a generational curse (parents sin visited on the children). IVP New Testament Commentaries "Jesus shifts the focus, and instead of addressing the cause of the man's blindness he speaks of the purpose: so thework of God might be displayed in his life. We should not be concerned with assigning blame. Trying to figure out the source of suffering in an individual's life is futile given our limited understanding, as the book of Job should teach us. Rather, here is one in whom Jesuscan manifest God's works and thus reveal something about God himself and his purpose on earth." Here Jesus is not by ant means saying the blindness is God's will, but is in fact saying he is a good oportunity for God's will to be demonstrated. I do not believe Paul's thorn in the flesh was a physical sickness, disease, or infirmity base on verses 9-11 and the term 'messenger from satan'. "Why were people not coming to Jesus to ask for worldly wealth?" The grouping of healing and prosperity in a thread is wrong. They are two seperate provisions with two entirely seperate set of rules. I have not seriously addressed it here and can not. It is too large a subject. "the problem with name it claim it is we do the naming". Nothing could be further from the truth. This offensive 'label' implies something trur WOF beliveres do not believe. We do not name it and claim anything, but listen to the Holy Spirit and the Word for direction for our personal lives (God's will) and begin to apply faith to the revealed direction of God for us personally. We do believe God reveals through our surrendered heart (spirit) his will for us. Others see this and resent it when they do not understand our "naming" is based on the revelation of the Spirit and our "claiming" is based on the fact that we can receive nothing from God apart from faith. (spiritual immaturity does not understand that to ask out of God's will which would be asking to consume on our own lusts or asking not in love, or just not being familiar enough with the Lord's voice. Health and wealth are cheap victories....How can you say that? Jesus bore our disease in his own body! And the wealth is sending the gospel around the world. The scripture indicate we are to press in, overcome.. In Jesus Satan killed Job's children and as far as I can see, we have been given authority over the works of satan. This is my understanding... In Jesus |