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NASB | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know [with great confidence] that God [who is deeply concerned about us] causes all things to work together [as a plan] for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to His plan and purpose. |
Subject: Is God's will prosperity/healing always? |
Bible Note: You wrote: "Jesus was prosperous." The Holy Spirit says: "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich." --2 Corinthians 8:9 'Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head."' --Matthew 8:20 You wrote: "He had one man whose only job was to handle His finances, Judas." Where do you read that this was Judas' ONLY job? You wrote: "Now, I don't remember where it is in the Bible, but Judas regularly embezzled money from Jesus' ministry. Let?s say you were to steal a dollar from your work place every day. Would it be easier for you to steal from a place that only had 5 or 10 dollars or a place that had 1000 dollars?" Now you are just making assumptions about the amount of money that Judas had to steal from. Stealing a few dollars a day is quite easy if you are the only accountant and no auditing is going on. You wrote: "Also, remember that out of the money that Judas was in charge of came the funds to feed and clothe 13 men, Jesus and the apostles, for the 3 and 1/2 years of Jesus' ministry." Now you are assuming that all of that money was in the account at the very outset. For the past three years I have had enough to feed and clothe myself and my wife and our dog and to give us shelter and transportation. However, if my income had stopped three years ago (all other thinsg being equal), I wouldn't be able to make that claim today. Why are you assuming that Jesus started out with all of the money that they would use for the whole earthly ministry. We look at the feeding of the five thousand in John 5, and it is quite apparent that they don't have the money to buy everyone lunch on the house. Day-by-day reliance on the Lord for provisions is a very biblical concept. One petition of the Lord's Prayer is "give us this day our DAILY bread." God sent manna from heaven on a DAILY basis to the Israelites in the wilderness, and attempts to accumulate provisions were literally spoiled by God Himself. Jesus tells us NOT to lay up treasures on earth, but rather to lay up for ourselves treasures in Heaven (Matthew 6). James tells the greedy rich to "weep and howl." (James 4:1) Over and over again covetousness and desire for riches is labelled as SIN. How much clearer can it get? You wrote: "Not only does that show that Jesus had enough money to support Himself and 12 other men, but that He could afford to give some away on top of that." I give money away as well, quite often to the poor; I am not rich. That is an unnecessary conclusion to draw. The only thing that one can reasonably conclude is that His Father provided for His NEEDS. Which is precisely what God promised us as well. You wrote: "Also, you see that in this verse, Jesus is distinguished from the poor because if you were giving to the poor then chances are you're not poor." So explain the widow in Mark 12:12 and Luke 21:2, or the Macedonians in 2 Corinthians 8:1-5? Genrerosity is commanded of all, not only of the filthy rich. "So if Jesus wasn't poor, why should we be?" Aside from the fact that Jesus WAS NOT RICH, why would you think that you would deserve any privilege that the sinless Son of God would have enjoyed? You are a sinful human being and in no sense of the word does God owe you anything but eternal damnation. Your very salvation is a merciful GIFT. I simply cannot understand how anyone who claims to understand the gospel would try and lay claim to anything at all on this earth, considering the price that God paid to buy my sorry soul from the hell I so deserve. --Joe! |