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NASB | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 8:28 ¶ And we know [with great confidence] that God [who is deeply concerned about us] causes all things to work together [as a plan] for good for those who love God, to those who are called according to His plan and purpose. |
Subject: Is God's will prosperity/healing always? |
Bible Note: I apologize for not being 100 percent clear. Let me clarify what I've been saying because I know that this post was directed right at me. 1. Jesus was prosperous, not rich. He had the resources to provide for Himself and those around Him. However, it's not even remotely practical to think that He came down here and lived a lavish lifestyle when He could live comfortably and give to the poor. He had compassion on people (see Matthew 14:14, 15:32, 18:33). If Jesus had compasson but ignored the poor then how could John write verse 1 John 3:17? It doesn't click. Anyway, Jesus lived comfortably and gave to the poor. 2. Judas and Matthew were disciples, not stockbrokers, not inside contacts, disciples. Judas was in charge of the money, you can't deny that it says it in John 12:6. I recommend reading multiple translations of that verse because the KJV isn't as direct and obvious as most of the others. 3. Jesus had a house. The Bible doesn't say that Jesus had a mansion. If He did, which I highly doubt, He probably would have let the homeless stay in one of His 20 spare rooms and given them a chariot or two. Maybe even let them take one of those TVs when they felt they were ready to go out on their own. 4. Ok, the maybe the robe was valuable to the soldiers because they were poor. The point is not that it was gold plated and diamond encrusted, because it obviously wasn't. Isaiah 53:2 (best rendered in NIV) says that Jesus would look like your average Jew. I would say that His clothing would be part of His appearance, and lavish clothing would attract people. You can get a nice shirt at Wal-Mart for cheap (please don't assume that I'm saying Jesus shopped at Wal-Mart it's the principle that I'm trying to convey). I'm simply stating that Jesus did not wear a pauper's rags, but I'm not saying that He wore a golden raiment full of diamonds, rubies, and pearls. 5. In didn't say that God was abusing us by LETTING children become sick. I said God WOULD be guilty of child abuse (abusing us, His children) if He were the one who placed sickness and disease on us, which He doesn't for ANY reason. Your father is exactly right, anyone either clever or stupid enough can twist the Bible to mean whatever they want. However, you will see where the lies are when it comes to consistancy. If an interpretation is inconsistant, then either the circumstances of the two or more situations are different, or the interpretation is wrong. I honestly don't mean to argue. I just believe strongly in some of these truths. There's a saying, and I'm not sure where it comes from, but it reads, "When fishermen aren't fishing they're fighting." I take that to mean that if we become so focused on doctrine and principles we can forget that there's a world out there waiting to hear the gospel. With this in mind I advise everyone to search the Bible for their answers and to give them with love, keeping in mind that the purpose of this site is to ask and answer Bible questions. It is not a place for us to bicker and fight over our beleifs as many of us, myself included, are guilty of. I suggest that we each present what we believe to be the truth and if clarification is needed, or if you have a different view, then provide it. Let's try to concentrait more on what we agree with than what we don't, and put petty disputes behind us. Honestly, if Jesus was prosperous or poor, He still died for us. I think we need to keep our focus on Christ and the power of His perfect blood that redeemed us, not on arguing over technicalities. Jesified |