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NASB | Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 1:20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through His workmanship [all His creation, the wonderful things that He has made], so that they [who fail to believe and trust in Him] are without excuse and without defense. [Ps 19:1-4; Eph 2:10] |
Subject: Is God somehow responsible? |
Bible Note: Greetings John! Good Morning my friend! I think that sometimes we are saying almost the same things but using different terms! :-) By 'determined', I don't mean 'allowed'. If I say that God 'determined' my every thought and action, then I'm saying that God said on Dec. 21, 2002, Tim will tell a lie! This is the kind of thing that I don't believe that God did. You seem to be saying the same thing since you say that He only permitted sin. To me, that is different, that would be like saying, "If I create Tim as a free moral agent, then on Dec. 21, 2002, he will tell a lie, but it is in my plan to create him so I'll allow it." Concerning Acts 15:18, I do notice that it says that His works are known from the beginning of the world. It does not say that our thoughts and actions are predetermined, since the reference is to God's works, not our choices. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |