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NASB | Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 1:20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through His workmanship [all His creation, the wonderful things that He has made], so that they [who fail to believe and trust in Him] are without excuse and without defense. [Ps 19:1-4; Eph 2:10] |
Subject: Is God somehow responsible? |
Bible Note: Greetings John! Actually, it is not correct to say that Arminians limit the atonement to only those who believe. We believe, in accordance with 1 John 2:2, that Christ atoned for every sin of everyone at the cross. This is an accomplished objective fact. But, we believe that individuals only receive the benefits of the atonement when they respond in faith. My understanding of Calvinism is that Christ only atoned for the elect. Of course, the end result is pretty much the same, those who believe are saved! :-) But, the foundation of the two views consists of a very different view of God. Concerning your quote of 2 Thes. 2:13, addressing members of a group does not in any way limit the members of that group to a certain number. I could write a letter to my local congregation and address it to: "Those who have been saved by the grace of God". However, this does not mean that no one else could at some point in the future be saved. 2 Thes. 2:13 is the same way. The fact that those whom Paul is addressing have been choosen does not mean that only a limited number have been choosen. Since God is sovereign, He could choose all. p.s. - I wish you would take the challenge and produce a verse where 'all' used in a salvation context clearly means 'some'. The meaning of words are what determines the meaning of verses. If we simply make the words mean what we want, then the verses have no meaning. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |