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NASB | Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 1:20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through His workmanship [all His creation, the wonderful things that He has made], so that they [who fail to believe and trust in Him] are without excuse and without defense. [Ps 19:1-4; Eph 2:10] |
Subject: Is God somehow responsible? |
Bible Note: Greetings Joe! Thanks for your response my friend! The reason I asked is that Geisler makes a strong point that orignal sin is evidence of free will (at least as I defined in a previous post). Since, Adam and Eve did not have a fallen nature at this point, they had (as you put it) no 'disposition to sin'. So, one is really only left with two possibilities. 1) God 'made' them choose sin. or 2) They freely chose to sin against God. I agree that Satan had a part to play, but he had no ability to force them to do anything. So, his could only be a tempting role, not a determintive role. I think that we would both agree that God didn't make them sin, since that would make God the direct author of sin. The only possibility that I can see which is left is that they freely chose to sin, not in obedience to a fallen nature, but as an act of will. One could even argue that 'sin' was against their nature in that sense that there had never been a human act of sin prior to this. Any way, I was just curious if there were any holes that I was missing! :) Keep me in prayer this week my friend. I have two abscessed teeth and the entire side of my face is swollen and painful. I can't get in to have them removed until Dec. 31. :-( Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |