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NASB | Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 1:20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through His workmanship [all His creation, the wonderful things that He has made], so that they [who fail to believe and trust in Him] are without excuse and without defense. [Ps 19:1-4; Eph 2:10] |
Subject: Is God somehow responsible? |
Bible Note: Greetings Joe! Do I agree that 'everything' happens according to God's eternal plan? No! Do I believe that everything God ordains to happen will happen? Yes! There is a subtle difference. I don't believe that God plans out every decision and action of man. Back to Adam and Eve for a moment, I thought you didn't believe in human free will? Adam and Eve didn't have a sin nature prior to the fall, so what was the cause of their decision to sin. If God only permitted their sin, what was the cause of their sin? If everything happens according to God's plan, then wouldn't their very decision itself have to be ordained by God? If God only allowed the decision, then He didn't sovereignly decree it would happen. It seems to me that God allowed their decision, but that He was not the cause of it. Concerning Piper, how could it be true that a sovereign God could will something, but it not come to pass? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |