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1 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | mouse2 | 51439 | ||
You wrote: The Old (Mosaic) Covenant was never a means of salvation. So why do you keep repeating that the thief was saved under the Old Covenant? Old covenant system. Old covenant was not designed to cover the cost of sin. Gal 3:24 says it was a what? The old covenant time and again pointed towards a more perfect sacrifice to come, to a new covenant: Isaiah 53; Acts 3:24-26; Jeremiah 31:34; Deut 18:15. The old covenant promised forgiveness would come, but its sacrificial system did not forgive sin. Heb 10:1-10. Obedience to the old covenant system of sacrifice was in faith in the promise to come. Without this obedience, there was condemnation. So then, what is the point of the sacrificial system? It was commanded (Heb 10:8 “..according to the Law…). The new covenant is based and built on Christ’s sacrifice. Heb 9. So the thief on the cross was saved in his obedience to the old covenant criteria. We are not commanded today to offer bulls, lambs, or goats; a system the Jewish Christians wanted to return to. The whole book of Hebrews points to the superiority of Christ and the new covenant. Old covenant required sacrifices in obedience to God for the promise to come. The new covenant requires obedience to the commands laid out in the New Testament to lay hold to the promise fulfilled in Christ. Mark 16:16 You wrote: If the New Covenant was Jesus' last will and testament as you say, whose last will and testament was the Old Covenant? The old covenant was not a “last will” . It was a shadow of the things to come (Heb 8:5-6; 10:1). You wrote: And as that verse says, no conditions can be added to a covenant once it is ratified. Nothing is being added to this covenant. This is a new covenant: Heb 8:13. it is the new covenant to which we are accountable. Again, what is the point of the sacrificial system? Did God not design this system? Then why are we questioning whether baptism is required for salvation? 1 Peter 3:21 “Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ…” Mark 16:16 again that “and” seems to be a conjunction, not an option. Luke 24:47 says repentance and forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name from Jerusalem, where we find in Acts 2, Peter and the others preaching the gospel. Acts 2:36 we have “know for certain” believe, have faith. Acts 2:37 “…what shall we do?” Acts 2:38 “Repent and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins…” Acts 2:41 “So then, those who had received his word were baptized; …” You wrote: If we must keep every last requirement of His will in order to be saved, then none of us save Christ will be in heaven, because we all still continually fall short of His righteous requirements. Sounds a lot like Luke 18:26. "Wherein does obeying God’s commands constitute works or boasting in works?" You wrote: You are kidding, right? Works in the sense of as if I had done something to earn or merit my salvation. As if by being baptized, I have done something to earn my salvation without God. There are works of the flesh (Gal 5:19-21), there are works of the spirit (Gal 5:22-23), there are works of merit (Eph 2:9), etc. Perhaps I should rephrase it for you: wherein does obeying God’s commands constitute boasting in works? Mouse2 |
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2 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 51522 | ||
You keep dodging the question, so maybe I had better make it simple: What is the means by which Abraham was declared righteous by God? By obedience or by belief? What is the means by which the Israelites were declared righteous by God? By works of the Law or by faith? What is the means by which I am declared righteous by God? By obedience to God's righteous commands or by faith? (Hint: Paul's point is that the answer for all three is the same.) --Joe! |
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