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1 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 50813 | ||
Greetings, fellow believers!! Let me begin by quoting from the book of Romans, a passage that speaks to this dicussion. The fact that everyone here,if we believe in truth, and live in Christ's righteousness, then we please God: Rom 14:17 for the kingdom of God is...righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Rom 14:18 For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- To answer one of your concerns, Grace and Truth, of course we must receive the Good News of the resurrection of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and believe it to be true(Rom 10:9). As far as baptism, I would like to share with you the thoughts of Matthew Henry, concerning the baptism of John the Baptist: 1...A penitent confession of sin is required in order to peace and pardon; and those only are ready to receive Jesus Christ as their Righteousness, who are brought with sorrow and shame to their own guilt, 1 Jn. 1:9. 2. The benefits of the kingdom of heaven, now at hand, were thereupon sealed[read:marked] to them by baptism. He washed them with water, in token of this—that from all their iniquities God would cleanse them. John's baptism was of water, a "token" of the true washing of our souls, by the precious blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Christ's baptism was of His blood, which He poured out on the cross. This is the true baptism, for, as it is written in Hebrews 9:22,"without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness."(NASB) I would have to respectfully ask you another question: Do you mean to say that water is as important in our spiritual cleansing as Jesus' shed blood? I do not believe so. Let us examine Ephesians 2:8-- "For by GRACE are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that NOT of YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT of God:"(KJV) Grace--Vine's says,"on the part of the bestower, the friendly disposition from which the kindly act proceeds, graciousness, loving-kindness, goodwill generally, e.g., Acts 7:10; especially with reference to the Divine favor or "grace," e.g." Saved--From the Greek "sozo"[sode'-zo], meaning to 'save', or to 'deliver' or 'protect'. Faith--Strong's defines it as "a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God." Gift--"a present; spec. and offering" In other words, by God's lovingkindness we are delivered and protected through our conviction(belief) that Jesus died for our sins, not by anything we did, but it is the sacrifice of God via Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:9--"Not of works, lest any man should boast." I do not wish to sound argumentative, and if I do, I apologize. My goal is to avoid what is warned about in II Cor.11:3--"...your minds should be corrupted from the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ."(KJV) May the Grace of Our Lord be with you. 2nd Samuel 22 |
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2 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 50986 | ||
Look again at the word faith in Eph 2:8-9 it's refering to the gospel not your belief! Then take Vine's and look at 1Peter 3:19-21, and I know its not talking about taking a bath! (LOL). | ||||||
3 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 50998 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth! From Strong's Concordance-- Faith[4102]; pis'-tis: PERSUASION, i.e. CREDENCE; CONVICTION(of RELIGIOUS truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), espec. RELIANCE upon Christ for salvation; CONSTANCY in such profession; by extension the system of religious(Gospel) TRUTH itself:-assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity. I capialized the words which are normally shown in italics in the lexicon. I would like to point out the crux of the passage you mention in I Peter 3-- " 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:"(KJV) Now, in verse 21, take out the part in parentheses and what do you have? "21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us by the RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST."[emphasis mine]. And the parenthetical section--"(not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,)". It is not the washing of our bodies that brings salvation, but the cleansing of our souls by the baptism from God's Holy Spirit and the shed blood of Jesus Christ our Lord. I suppose we ought to simply agree to disagree on this subject. We shall see each other again in God's heavenly kingdom, and this discussion will not matter one wit. May the Grace of our Lord be with you!! 2nd Samuel 22 |
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4 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 51009 | ||
My friend 2nd Samuel 22, agree to disagree is not the answer: For you and other who don't believe what Jesus in Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved: But he that believeth not shall be damned. will still read the same way even when were gone! Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Will you also take this verse and say it doesn't mean what it says? Paul understood the he was told to do, he was told to be baptized, and wash away his sins. Did Ananias lie to him about baptism? Why didn,t Paul correct Ananias, and tell him that baptism has nothing to do with his salvation, it's just an outward showing of an inward thing! Paul knew what it was about and he submitted to it. |
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5 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 51106 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth! Since Acts 22:16 is part of Paul's retelling of his conversion, let us take a look at the first narration of it in chapter 9: Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he regained his sight, and he got up and was baptized;(NASB) I'm not sure if there is such a term as a "living parable", but if there is, this passage is one. Notice, if you will, that the scales fell from Saul's(Paul's) eyes, BEFORE he was baptized. The meaning: we, in our own flesh, in our own works, are blind as Bartameus. But, when we receive Jesus, and believe in His life, death, and resurrection, we begin to see how to live for Him, and to let Him live through us. That is when we receive salvation. It is after this transformation that we need to make a public confession of faith, and symbolically wash our flesh with water, as Jesus' Blood has cleansed our soul. Just a couple more passages for you to ponder: Acts 16:29 And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas, Acts 16:30 and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." --------------------------- Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rom 10:10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. ----------------------------------- Matt 3:11 "As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. --------------------------------------- Acts 1:5 for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." Acts 1:8 but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth." It is Christ who performs the true baptism, with the Holy Spirit(Holy Ghost) and fire. I truly do hope you will not merely read these passages without meditating on them, that you will allow yourself to trust in the fact that it is Jesus' shed Blood that is the perfect and only means necessary to purge us of our unrighteousness. May the Grace of Our Lord be with you! 2nd Samuel 22 |
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