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1 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | mouse2 | 50870 | ||
Hello Steve: You wrote: It seems to me this idea has two fatal flaws. First, it negates the many instances where the Bible says that all who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved (e.g. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13). This simple, unqualified statement is beautifully illustrated by the thief on the cross. The problem with that is the thief on the cross was still under the old covenant. The new covenant did not take effect until after the death of Christ (Heb 9:15-17). Yet Peter did not stop there at Acts 2:21, he continued to preach and teach what they needed to do. If belief was all that was necessary, why continue on? Why do the people ask what they ask in Acts 2:37? Why didn't Peter simply say, believe? You wrote: But there too many counter-examples to claim that the two are invariably linked. Do you believe the Bible is inconsistent? Do you not look to see how they are threaded together? God wrote all we have in Scripture through inspired men. Psalm 119:160; 2 Tim 3:16-17 Psalms 119:160 says "the sum": the total, it all adds up. You wrote: No legalisms, no performance, no law, none of our own effort, nor the effort of anyone doing baptisms - only his. I do agree, nothing we do on OUR OWN merits salvation. However, there are works we must do: James 2:14,17-26; Matthew 3:8; John 15:8, etc. Mouse2 |
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2 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | stjones | 50879 | ||
Hi, mouse2; You asked "Do you believe the Bible is inconsistent?" and cited Psalm 119:160 "All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal." That was my point. Throughout, the Bible says to believe, to have faith, to call upon the Lord to be saved. No one is saved without faith. You cited passages in James, Matthew, and John but none of them say that works lead to salvation. They all say that works should be the visible result of salvation. Nor do they mention any specific works. But let me ask you a straightforward question - Paul wrote "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9) Did he lie? Was he mistaken? Is it only first-century citizens of Ephesus who are saved by grace through faith? This passage explicitly excludes works as a means to salvation. No baptism, no style of worship, no schedule for communion, just God's grace accessed through faith. Nothing more. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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3 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | mouse2 | 51072 | ||
Steve, hope you had a good weekend. You wrote: "Do you believe the Bible is inconsistent?" and cited Psalm 119:160 "All your words are true; all your righteous laws are eternal." That was my point. Throughout, the Bible says to believe, to have faith, to call upon the Lord to be saved. No one is saved without faith. I agree. No one is saved without faith. Or faith alone. How do you define faith? At what point of faith are you saved? I mean is it at mental acceptance? Do you “invite Jesus into your heart”? With faith only for salvation, is confession necessary? Do you need to repent? You wrote: You cited passages in James, Matthew, and John but none of them say that works lead to salvation. They all say that works should be the visible result of salvation. Nor do they mention any specific works. Define “works” for me. You wrote: Paul wrote "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast" (Ephesians 2:8-9) How does one boast in obedience to God’s word? (You wrote: No baptism, no style of worship, no schedule for communion, just God's grace accessed through faith. Nothing more.) What type of works does this verse refer to? Mouse2 |
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