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1 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | Aspiring Overseer | 50752 | ||
"..then who were the church members during that long interim and what did they call themselves?" Answer: Christians Christians have walked the earth since Christ formed the church. They just have not named themselves, written a book about their history, bought public church property, advertised for new members or registered with governments for tax exempt status. Hard to believe? See: 1 Kings 19:13-18 13And it came about when Elijah heard it, that he wrapped his face in his mantle, and went out and stood in the entrance of the cave. And behold, a voice came to him and said, "What are you doing here, Elijah?" 14Then he said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Thy covenant, torn down Thine altars and killed Thy prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away." 15And the LORD said to him, "Go, return on your way to the wilderness of Damascus, and when you have arrived, you shall anoint Hazael king over Aram; 16and Jehu the son of Nimshi you shall anoint king over Israel; and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abel-meholah you shall anoint as prophet in your place. 17And it shall come about, the one who escapes from the sword of Hazael, Jehu shall put to death, and the one who escapes from the sword of Jehu, Elisha shall put to death. 18Yet I will leave 7,000 in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal and every mouth that has not kissed him." NAS Even a chosen prophet of God was unaware of those who had chosen to remain faithful to God. Likewise the Church persists from the day of Pentecost to today! |
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2 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 50781 | ||
You wrote: "Christians have walked the earth since Christ formed the church. They just have not named themselves, written a book about their history, bought public church property, advertised for new members or registered with governments for tax exempt status." Sure they have. You just don;t recognize them as Christians. By the way, we call advertising for new members "evangelism" where I come from. Speaking of which, if this phantom "true church" was around all this time without a peep for a miliennium and a half, their missionary efforts certainly were not much to speak of. So, assuming for amusement that the "Church of Christ" was truly around all of that time in stealth mode, what prompted you guys to suddenly start naming yourselves and writing books and buying church property and advertising for new members and registering with governments for text-exempt status? Why didn't this "true church" do all of these things all along, since obviously such efforts have brought you guys out of the shadows of history. :) --Joe! |
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3 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | Aspiring Overseer | 50831 | ||
Why are you assuming the "Church of Christ" is the true church? Where, for that matter, does God say you can choose the church of your choice? Why do you believe you can worship God in any manner you chose rather than worshiping as the Creator has directed? Nadab and Abihu made that mistake and received the punishment for their error: Lev 10:1-3 10:1Now Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took their respective firepans, and after putting fire in them, placed incense on it and offered strange fire before the LORD, which He had not commanded them. 2And fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD. 3Then Moses said to Aaron, "It is what the LORD spoke, saying, 'By those who come near Me I will be treated as holy, And before all the people I will be honored.'" So Aaron, therefore, kept silent. NAS God is very explicit in how He desires to be worshiped. |
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4 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 50846 | ||
You wrote: 'Why are you assuming the "Church of Christ" is the true church?' You need to re-read my posts. I am not assuming it as a belief of my own. In fact, I deny it. I said "let's assume" for the sake of argument, to show that the logical conclusion of such a statement results in nonsense. You wrote: "Where, for that matter, does God say you can choose the church of your choice?" Who said I am merely "choosing the church of my choice." The church I attend holds to what I believe to be the closest and most correct interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. And that is why I attend it, not because it is my favorite flavor. I hold other Christian churches to be in error on certain teachings, but not all error is damnably wrong. If that were the case, then I think we would all be in trouble, because chances are that no one is right about EVERYTHING, no matter how carefully one studies God's word. You wrote: "Why do you believe you can worship God in any manner you chose rather than worshiping as the Creator has directed?" I don't believe that at all. What I disagree with is the assessment that the Church of Christ has made regarding how the Creator is to be worshipped. I find certain prohibitions and commandments to be extrabiblical or unbiblical, along with many of their doctrines. You wrote: "Nadab and Abihu made that mistake and received the punishment for their error" Now wait a second. Are you trying to convince us that every aspect of the worship of God is mapped out to the letter like the Levitical laws regarding temple work? Yes, God has instituted the ministry of the word, and baptism and the Lord's Supper, as well as singing hymns. There are a whole host of practices that are in churches today that are dishonoring to God, I will agree. But we do not wear uniforms like the priests do. We are not commanded where to sit, when to stand, what words to say, whether to wear a suit or not, what order should be followed in engaging in worshipful activities, etc. We are certainly not forbidden the use of musical instruments. So I would disagree that worship has been clearly laid out in as uniform a pattern as the ministry of the priests in the temple. The New Testament looks very little like Leviticus, in other words. I do agree that the circus routines and rock operas that pass for "worship" in many churches today do indeed dishonor God, and anyone with any sense of God's holiness would be best to avoid such theatrics. Lastly, you wrote: "God is very explicit in how He desires to be worshiped." Yes, He is explicit in how he is to be worshiped. And much of what I have seen in this thread are commandments of men that are anything but explicitly commanded by God. --Joe! |
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