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1 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 50221 | ||
Hello Hank, I would like to ask if you have ever looked thru the book or Romans? You said,"Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone". I'll give you one out the three. But you see the other two can't hold water with scriptures like this; Romans 1 5Through Him we have received grace and apostleship for OBEDIENCE to the faith among all nations for His name, Romans 6 16Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of OBEDIENCE leading to righteousness? Romans 16 26but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for OBEDIENCE to the faith-- Matthew 7 Build on the Rock (1) 24 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, AND DOES THEM, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. 26"But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and DOES NOT DO THEM, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: James 1 22But be DOERS OF THE WORD, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty AND CONTINUES IN IT, and is not a forgetful hearer BUT A DOER OF THE WORK, this one will be blessed in what he does. James 2 Faith Without Works Is Dead (1) 14 What does it profit, my brethren, IF SOMEONE SAYS HE HAS FAITH BUT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS? CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? 15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, "Depart in peace, be warmed and filled," but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17THUS ALSO FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS, IS DEAD.18But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your[1] works, and I will show you my faith by my[2] works. 19You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! 20But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?[3] 21Was not Abraham our father JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22DO YOU SEE THAT FAITH WAS WORKING TOGETHER WITH HIS WORKS, AND BY WORKS FAITH WAS MADE PERFECT? 23And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."[4] And he was called the friend of God. 24You see then that a man is justified by works, AND NOT BY FAITH ONLY. 25Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also JUSTIFIED BY WORKS when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? 26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD ALSO. Hank, why can you not read these few verses and and not know that faith only will not save anybody or anyone at anytime! Your friend, Raven |
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2 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 50333 | ||
Daer Raven: Does what you say represeent what you really believe or what you chruch teaches or both? I am reallt trying to understand where you theological under pinnings come from. I am trying to be open to what seems to be a tough task. justme |
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3 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 50372 | ||
Hello Justme, The things that I write in this forum, I try to give scriptual backings to everything I say. If not, it would be just me talking. The church of Christ which I am a member has only one purpose. And that is to glorify God by preaching His word to all. Which would be probably what you would say most churches try to do? But the conflict that I run into on this forum, is that no one wants all of what the bible says. Why do you suppose that is? Why can't people accept that Jesus told His disciples "repentance and remission of sins shall be preached in My name beginning at Jerusalem"?(Matt 28:19-20) Why when the Apostles were ask in Acts 2:37 "what shall we do?" and in Acts 2:38 the Apostles responded "repent and be baptised for the remission of sins" can people not believe it? Can you just answer why do most people on this forum not believe baptism is essential to being saved? Jesus commanded it?(Matt 28:19-20,Mark 16:15-16) Your friend, Raven |
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4 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 50422 | ||
Dear Raven: This note is more in tone of kindness, thank you. If we carry your thinking then shouln not women be silent and in this foeum find out id we are addressing a man, and not instruct him? For me the mode of Baptism is just as important as when. I believe people who refuse to follow the Lords command are not geninuely saved. In all sincerity, what about the thief on the cross? Also I once visited a lady in a cancer ward. she was near death, she praid to repant of her sins, and asked Christ to be her Lord. She died quite soon after. What happened to her soul. She would have crawld to be baptized if she were able. our pastor sprinkled he as a sign of what baptism is. He made it clear it was not baptism, but she had some peace. Things make me sad. justme |
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5 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 50478 | ||
Dear Justme, I am glad that we can continue our discussion. You wrote:If we carry your thinking then shouln not women be silent and in this foeum find out id we are addressing a man, and not instruct him? No, not altogether. This passage in the bible that you refer to is addressing the matter of worship not discussion. 1 Corinthians 14 34Let your[1] women keep silent in the churches, also 1 Timothy 2 12And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. Women fill a very important roll in the church. They teach the children, keep in touch with the shut-ins and also coordinate any activity that will take place on the church grounds etc. Women are just not to take a leadership role in worship service. Examples would be preaching where capable men are present, song leading, and leading a prayer. You wrote:In all sincerity, what about the thief on the cross? I get the question a lot. Jesus had not yet died. Therefore He had not been raised either. By all rights the thief on the cross was still under the Mosaic Law. But because Jesus was not yet dead He could see the mans heart and new he had repented of his deeds, so Jesus did for him just as He did for all the others before He died who believed on Him, He forgave him and the scriptures say took him to paradise. Luke 23:43 You wrote:Also I once visited a lady in a cancer ward. she was near death, she praid to repant of her sins, and asked Christ to be her Lord. She died quite soon after. What happened to her soul? It is hard for someone to accept it when a person dies. They see the person in pain and feel that God will soon take them and their pain will be all over and they will go to be with the Lord. But the bible teaches that for a person to receive that crown of glory they must be obedient to the faith (Rom 16:8) and observe all things that Jesus taught (Matt 28:20)if this was not the case then its to late. You wrote:Our pastor sprinkled her as a sign of what baptism is. He made it clear it was not baptism, but she had some peace. Baptism as you know means to be emersed. The bible says we are BURIED with our Lord in Baptism. Romans 6 4Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Colossians 2 12buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. Sprinkling water on someone is no more concidered baptism than if you sprinkle a few grains of sand on a casket and call them buried. This act that your pastor did was not scriptual for one, and merly while she was still alive gave her some peace. But by no means did it constitute her being saved from her sins. For not only is baptism scriptual it has to be administerd scriptual. And that means "for the remission of sins" I hope I have answered your questions and also I hope we can discuss future questions as well. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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6 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 50496 | ||
Are you saying that this women went to hell then? jsutme |
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7 | need for a bible-anyone | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 50587 | ||
Hello Justme, If the lady you speak of did not obey the gospel, be buried with the Lord in baptism and worship in a manner that is pleasing to God then God would have no choice to condem her. Think of it like this, when Adam and Eve were in the garden before sin that was grace that God even created them. Then because of man stubborn will they sinned and were cast out of the garden. Genesis 3:15 was basically as we know it from the bible when God set the plan of salvation in motion. That was grace also to give sinful man a second chance. The difference though is that it is conditional. We must do as God says or else. God sent His Son for the whole of humanity. That is a price no one could pay but him. You better believe it's conditional! If you were a bad student in school and the school had all they were going to take from you and exspelled you then you are out. But what if your parents plead your case and they let you come back, but this time its under certain conditions. We have to accept the conditions that God has set forth in His word to be admitted to that Heavenly home. After we die its up to God to judge. Hebrews 9 27And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, I hope this has answered your question and also that you do not think that I am being mean hateful toward you. The bible is open to all, we just have to obey it. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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8 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 50591 | ||
Greetings, Raven I just have one question on the "need" for water baptism in the context of salvation: When was the thief on the cross baptized? The one Jesus told would be with Him in Paradise? I eagerly await your answer. 2nd Samuel 22 |
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9 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 50596 | ||
When did Jesus give the great commission? When did Peter preach the first great sermon on the death, burial and resurrection of the Christ? Did the thief obey the gospel? Did the thief know about the resurrection of Jesus? Does the thief matter when we are told we must hear the gospel of Jesus Christ in order to be saved! You can run, but you can't hide from the truth! When will you have the oportunity to hang on the cross with Jesus so he can tell you what he told the thief? Baptism is important to God, or else He would not have told Jesus to tell us to do it! Have you ever considered that? | ||||||
10 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 50601 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth You are the one who is running and hiding. Answer the question--When was the thief on the cross baptized? Steve |
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11 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 50608 | ||
If I answer 'yes or no' the thief did not know about the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and that's something people today must know! So the real question is does it matter what the thief recieved or did not recieve? The bible doesn't say weather or not he was baptized! |
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12 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 50611 | ||
Thank you, srbaegon!! And Greetings, Grace and Truth! You wrote: "The bible doesn't say weather or not he[the thief] was baptized!" But, by your own belief, you MUST ASSUME he was baptized, in order for him to be in Paradise with Jesus. That being said, you are assuming something which is not written(or even implied) in Scripture. And to do that, you must add to the Perfect Word of God. And are we allowed to add to the Word of God? May the Grace of our Lord be with you!! 2nd Samuel 22 |
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13 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 50617 | ||
What you must understand is there is no history of the thief on the cross, that's why I used the "yes or no" and for you to assume for me you are the one adding to God's word, and if you go back and read my statement you will note that I said "it doesn't matter what the thief did" but it matters what we are to do and that's hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, and believe and obey it! 2nd Samuel 22! |
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14 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | TOFT | 50754 | ||
Question I would like to ask...when was the thief forgiven? Before or after Christ's death? If it was BEFORE...then how is it that forgiveness of the thief applies to us who live AFTER Christ's death? Through HIM, TOFT |
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15 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 50764 | ||
TOFT, can you explain what the time frame in your scenario has to do with Christ's forgiveness? --Hank | ||||||
16 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | TOFT | 50777 | ||
Christ forgave the thief under the OLD law...we are under the NEW law now...Jesus' NEW testament hadn't begun until He had died...because with a new testament there is a nessecity of the death of a Testator, Jesus Christ (Hebrews 9:16-22). We CANNOT apply the thief on the cross on the basis of salvation. He was forgiven under the OLD law, not the NEW. The thief on the cross...is a good example of humbleness and Jesus' power on earth to forgive. But it doesn't apply to us, because Christ is NOT on the earth and His NEW law is in effect. Hope that helps to explain. Please read the following site for more details: http://www.tftw.org/Tracts/saved_thief.html Through HIM, TOFT |
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17 | "need" for baptiam | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 50791 | ||
Greetings Toft! Two points if I may my friend! 1) I thought that the New Testament taught that no one could be saved under Law (Rom. 8:3 among many others). So, how could the thief's salvation differ from ours? 2) Secondly, how is the New way better if it requires both works and repentance, while the Old way only required repentance? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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