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1 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | gracefull | 67998 | ||
Ed..Where in heavens name have I said God heals everyone? Just look at every 3rd person you meet. But healing is PROVIDED. Wheather we receive it or not does not make the provision any less? I will not discuss this on this thread any more unless you can explain away 1Peter 2:24 who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed. We are the righteousness of God (God looks at us and sees us through Jesus shed blood..thus healing is provided through faith in the righteousness provided by Jesus. Why were many sick and dying 'not discerning the body of Christ'? 1 Corinthians 11:28-30? |
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2 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | Hank | 68029 | ||
Gracefull: There is no "explaining away" to do with 2 Peter 2:24. Peter is talking about spiritual regeneration in his book, not physical healing. The suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is a type of Christ, and Isaiah's theme is spiritual restoration, not physcial healing. Come to think of it, Christ is the theme of the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation and Christ is the Messiah, the Savior, our Advocate with the Father, the propitiation for our sins. Sin and atonement, healing of the spiritual fall of man through disobedience -- that is what the Bible is about. Sin came into the world and with sin, death and the things leading to death, such as disease and physical suffering. Eternal life comes when we are healed by the stripes of Jesus that He suffered in His atoning death on the cross. That's our healing. Spiritual, not physical. If we are healed of a physical disease we are going to get another, and then another, and in a few years we are all of us going to die. If we are healed of spiritual disease (regenerated, born again in Christ) it is for all eternity. Which is the more important: temporary healing of a physical malady or permanent healing of a spiritual malady? The Bible is not a handbook on physical healing; actually it lays very little stress on that, very little indeed in comparison to the stress it lays on sin and salvation. Frankly I'm at the end of my tether when I try to fathom the reason why some religious groups put so much stress on physical healing. It's an emphasis that is not borne out in the broad context of God's word..... I am not for a moment saying that divine healing is bunkum. Not by any stretch. God can and, I surely do believe, does heal. The sovereign God has the power to empty every hospital bed on the face of this earth. He heals, and indeed does everything else, according to His will and His purpose. This does not mean that God has delegated to mortal man the power to "name and claim" health or wealth or anything else under the sun. God, I say again, is sovereign. I don't know what that means to you where you live, but down here in Arkansas, friend, that means that God is the boss! --Hank | ||||||
3 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | gracefull | 68056 | ||
Hank, I have confidence that God is my Father and that Jesus is my Lord and that the Holy Spirit has been given to me to reveal the Word of God to me Spirit to spirit. I believe God through His word has provided all that I need to do the work I am called to do. I believe that divine provision, be that finances or healing, has been made and where I am all I need can be found. I believe that as I grow and step by faith the Holy Spirit will reveal gaps that give satan access to my life, property, or health and show me the way to victory. If you believe you are vulnerable to satan and that he is God's instrument of discipline, that is okey. And if you believe we are called to simply be an example to the world on how to endure satan's attacks, that is okey. I do not. I believe Jesus gave us authority over satan and any and all of his devices. If you believe the curse from the fall still has authority over you that too is okey..I do not. I believe Jesus came for the purpose of setting me free and giving me authority over satan, the curse and the flesh. I also believe that to walk in that is a choice each beliver must make for themselves. I will try very hard in the future not to enter these kinds of debates any more because it is impossible to communicate to people who have presuppositions about one's belief, because presuppositions constantly interject conclusions that are not stated. (ie If I believe divine healing is provided through the redemptive work of Jesus I can't possibly believe God is sovereign. Or..If I believe God obligated Himself by entering covenant with man I do not believe He is sovereign.)These conclusions are false. So you can believe whatever you like about what you think I believe. I am powerless over your choices..(notice I said I am powerless over your choices, I did not say God is) I respect your right to believe whatever you like because you belong to God. Have a blessed Thanksgiving |
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4 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | Hank | 68067 | ||
gracefull: You write: "I respect your right to believe whatever you like because you belong to God.".... Well, thanks for your respect, but the truth is that neither I nor anyone else who professes Christ has a "right to believe" whatever he likes. That is not what the Bible teaches, and the premises that we have the "right" to believe whatever we like, and name and claim whatever we desire are false premises, false doctrine, unscriptural, and not the gospel of Christ. The Bible says, "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed. For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ."..... So, you are trying to tell me (and this forum) that I have a right to believe whatever I like BECAUSE I belong to God? This is unadultered hogwash. --Hank | ||||||
5 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | gracefull | 68070 | ||
Hank, You are so good at distorting what I say.. Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. Thus my statement you have the right to believe what you choose, that is a God given right. I did not say anything you believe would be correct. I do not believe in relativeism. But you do not have to answer to me, only to God. You see, I do not presume to judge you despite our differences of scriptural interpretation. (although from the sound of your post, you do presume to judge me but that too is between you and God). Nor do I presume that I am totally correct in all my understanding, but am pretty sure that because I am human there is a real good chance that in some points I am in error. No Hank, I am not telling you or anyone else in this forum that you have a right to believe whatever you want BECAUSE you belong to God..implying relativeism. But because you are accountable only to God, as far as I am concerned you have the right to believe whatever you want. God bless |
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6 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | Hank | 68071 | ||
gracefull: From your post #68056: "I respect your right to believe whatever you like because you belong to God." In my response, I challenged you, pointing out that this statement is contrary to what the Bible teaches and quoting Galatians 1:6-10. In your post #68070, instead of making some effort to substantiate your statement by Scripture (which you can't do, even if you try), you make a transparent effort to wiggle out of it by accusing me of distorting it. I didn't distort it, gracefull, I quoted it verbatim You make no comment at all about what Paul said about the issue in Galatians. You merely ramble on with opinion compounding opinion. It is useless to attempt to get to the truth of Scripture, or to discuss an issue in a manner that could be edifying to searchers of deeper understanding of God's word, with anyone who uses the inane and pointless tactic of attacking the challenger instead of addressing the issue by mounting sound biblical proof upon which to establish one's reason for believing as he does. Sorry, but I am exasperated and see no earthly reason to continue this unproductive discourse further. --Hank | ||||||
7 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | gracefull | 68073 | ||
As I said.. you have the right to believe whatever you like. It is between you and you and God. | ||||||
8 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | Hank | 68075 | ||
When I surrendered my will to the will of Christ, which is encompassed in the idea of the new birth, I forfeited whatever right I may have had to believe whatever I liked. Christians are given no choice in what they may or may not believe. They believe in Christ and in His teachings or they are none of His. I am not at liberty to believe in humanism or any form of it that panders to human greed and desires and is thinly disguised to resemble Christianity. --Hank | ||||||