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1 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | srbaegon | 67658 | ||
Hello retxar I agree that the LXX is the version Matthew is quoting from. And yes, there is the application of physical healing. See my last post to you. But even in Is 53:4 the the construction of the verse makes a distinction between the two halves of the verse. Isaiah 53:4 (ESV) Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. Even though He took upon Himself our infirmities (physical healing), 53:4b-5 moves on to spiritual healing. Jesus' suffering is not related to physical healing. 1. What in Is 61 requires a physical aspect? 2. 1 Peter 2:24 is not speaking MOSTLY of spiritual healing, but ENTIRELY. Steve |
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2 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | retxar | 67682 | ||
I guess my only intent was to show that Isa 53 indeed includes provision for physical healing, so I guess that has been established. I am glad we agree on that! Maybe I looked at Isaiah 53 in the LXX a little too long when I looked up what Matthew was quoting and got the notion that this provision is provided for by Jesus’s suffering. Verse 3 says Jesus was a man "in suffering and acquainted with the bearing of sickness". Anyway, I checked with the commentaries on Matthew 8:17 I had available and found that this is not that far fetched of an idea: Matthew Henry: "we may say, that he bore our sicknesses then, when he bore our sins in his own body upon the tree" Albert Barnes: "The word translated “griefs” in Isaiah, and “infirmities” in Matthew, means properly, in the Hebrew and Greek, “diseases of the body.” Adam Clarke: "And the rabbins understand this place to speak of the sufferings of the Messiah for the sins of Israel; and say that all the diseases, all the griefs, and all the punishments due to Israel shall be borne by him." David Guzik: “Matthew rightly sees this as a partial fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 53, which primarily refers to spiritual healing, but also definitely includes physical healing. The provision for our healing (both physically and spiritually) is made by the sufferings (stripes) of Jesus; the physical dimension of our healing is partially realized now, but finally only in resurrection.” This last commentary best sums up the way I understand in much better words than I could ever convey to you. A quick word on Isa 61: This is the same scripture Jesus read from when He declared His ministry in Luke 4. Jesus declared His ministry would be a healing ministry which would include physical, emotional, and spiritual healing. I will concede that 1Pe 2:24 is speaking of spiritual healing. However, this does not rule out the provision for our physical healing is also provided for by Jesus in Isa ref is given. God bless you bro! retxar |
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