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1 | Is God somehow responsible? | Rom 1:20 | Morant61 | 70358 | ||
Greetins John! Everytime I think I just about have your position figured out, you confuse me again! :-) Two posts ago, you said that God only permitted the fall. I responded by saying that I agreed, that I make a distinction between ordaining something and permitting something. So, which do you believe? Did God will sin to happen in the sense that He scripted it out and made it happen? Or, did God will sin to happen in the sense that He permitted it to occur? Finally, based on Eph. 2:8-9, is 'faith' the gift of God, or is it the whole process? I ask becase, as you probably have heard before, the pronoun 'it' cannot have as its antecedents either 'faith' or 'grace'. They are both feminine nouns, while the pronoun 'it' is neuter. Thus, the common claim that one cannot repspond in faith unless God gives faith is not supported by the text. (This may be a whole new thread) :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is God somehow responsible? | Rom 1:20 | John Reformed | 70363 | ||
So, which do you believe? Did God will sin to happen in the sense that He scripted it out and made it happen? Or, did God will sin to happen in the sense that He permitted it to occur? I don't think that He has made us privy to that information. At least I have'nt found the answer in the Bible yet. It may not be a question of "either or". His ways are past finding out, you know. We do know that He created all things and that all He sets out to do He accomplishes. We know He commands knowing His commands will be broken.We also know He operates using a plan, and a perfect plan at that! So He must have planned that Adam and Eve sin but His plan also allowed for their freedom to not sin. Of course there was no doubt in God's omniscient mind. He knew they would sin. Hey! It's His creation afterall. He has mercy on whoever He wants etc. Our time would more profitably spent discovering what He has done and what He wants us to do rather than speculating on why He has done what He has done. Especially when we lack scriptural proof. I'm not a genious ya know!(do not feel compelled to answer that last remark) :-) Ihave Bible Study tonight. Must dash off! John |
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