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1 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Pam D | 105709 | ||
Samson killed himself,is in Hebrews hall of faith In Judges 16:28 Samson prayed to the Lord to give him strength to get revenge on the Philistines for gouging out his eyes. He said, "Let me die with the Philistines" and apparently God granted his request, because he pushed the pillars with all his might and the house fell on himself and 3000 plus Philistines - killing them and himself. So Samson committed suicide (Judges 16:30) and He is in the Hebrews hall of faith (Heb 11:32) included in the list with "Gideon, Barak, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets". Any thoughts or Comments? Blessings, Pam |
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2 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Makarios | 105743 | ||
Greetings Pam, Not to sound uncaring, I doubt that anything can be said on this subject that would be 'new' and hasn't already been said at this Forum. This is one of those common topics that is frequently shared from time to time at this Forum, and you could do a search for 'suicide' posts at the Right. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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3 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Pam D | 105884 | ||
I searched suicide and found that those that said what I consider to be the right answer (that one who is saved and commits suicide will be saved) used for Scripture backup verses that indicate you cannot lose your salvation. Now I believe one cannot lose their salvation, but I realize others do not believe this and that is why I thought it would be helpful to post an example of someone who committed suicide and was saved. In my search on suicide I found only two posts, (both from Tim on 7/3/03 and 7/4/03) that connected Samson's suicide to Heb 11 hall of faith and that was on a discussion of what made Lot a righteous man. Blessings, Pam |
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4 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Makarios | 105919 | ||
Greetings Pam, From a Biblical perspective, the issues of life and death lie in the sovereign hands of God alone. Job said to God, "Man's days are determined; you [O God] have decreed the number of his months and have set limits he cannot exceed" (Job 14:5, NIV). David said to God, "All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:16, NIV). Also, the Bible tells us "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13), since man was created in the image of God (Gen. 1:26). Therefore, God prohibits murder of any kind, even though suicide is certainly not the "unforgivable sin." There were times when the servants of God were so severely tested and distressed that they wished for their own death (1 Kings 19:4; 2 Cor. 1:8). But God always rescued them. Therefore, when we despair, we must have faith that God will see us through. We need not take matters into our own hands. Of all the suicides that are recorded in the Bible (Judges 16:30; 1 Sam. 31:1-6; 2 Sam. 17:23; 1 Kings 16:18; Jonah 1:12 (suggested); Matthew 27:5; Acts 16:27-28 (attempted)), I cannot find one single New Testament instance in which a born again believer took their own life. However, the only "Biblically justifiable" suicide that I can find in the Bible would be that which you have already mentioned - Samson (Judges 16:30), who was heralded as a hero of the faith (Hebrews 11:32), despite his suicide. What I mean by "Biblically justifiable" is that the Bible justifies the faith of the person despite the act of suicide. But you must also consider that in Judges 16:30, the Philistines would have eventually sought to kill Samson, and they were giving praise to their own god (Judges 16:23). Therefore, God used Samson not only to avenge Samson for his eyes, but to avenge Himself in regards to the Philistines who "assembled to offer a great sacrifice to Dagon their god." So there were many other circumstances involved in Samson's death than just his own committing suicide. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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5 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Pam D | 105941 | ||
Dear Makarios, I think that everyone knows the biblical perspective that God is soverign over who lives and who dies and when. I thought it had been established already in this thread that suicide is murder, but it is not the unpardonable sin. And I fervently pray that those on this thread would agree with your statement that “when we despair, we must have faith that God will see us through. We need not take matters into our own hands.” But the question was, "Can one who commits suicide be saved?" My point WAS that Samson was justified (saved) even though he had commited the sin of suicide and that Heb 11:32 proves it. Perhaps I should have been more clear. I do not think that the other circumstances involved in Samson’s death would change the answer to the question, “Can one who commits suicide be saved” - do you? “Beelersweethome” makes the point that “Saul killed himself and Samuel had told him he would be with him the next day (1Sam 28:19). Since I believe that Saul was saved (1Sam 10:6,9,10), I think this is another example of a saved person who commited suicide and still was saved. But I don’t think it is as clear cut as the Samson example. Also the posts by "RonL" and "SavedbyGracein98" indicate that that they would like a definite answer on this question, because they both know people who have committed suicide. As I said before, many do not believe in eternal security and I thought an example of one who commited suicide and was saved anyway would be helpful and comforting to those who have lost loved ones in this way. Blessings, Pam |
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6 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Makarios | 106009 | ||
Greetings Pam, Quite right, quite right.. A definite answer is in order, and my definite answer I will give. A person who commits suicide can still go to heaven. And I say 'can' in a sense that it is not I, or any human being, who determines who is saved and who is not saved, but only the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said that every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven of men, except for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Matt. 12:31). Therefore, the sins of murder and suicide can and will be forgiven by Christ. But salvation itself is dependent upon our relationship to Christ, regardless of how we finally perish. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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7 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Pam D | 106014 | ||
Dear Makarios, I'm sorry, I'm a little unclear as to what you are saying. Are you saying that a person who IS saved and commits suicide will STILL be saved? That is what I believe. If that is what you are saying, I'm not sure how Matt 12:31 proves it since "HeirofGod" believes that God does not forgive suicide, because "if you are dead you cannot ask for forgiveness"! When a person is saved, all of their sins - past, present, and future sins (like suicide) ARE forgiven the moment they accept Jesus as their savior. So, the answer to the question "Can one who commits suicide be saved?" boils down to the fact of the eternal security of the believer - which is why I posted the example of Samson, a believer who committed suicide who was still saved (Heb 11:32) after committing suicide. Blessings, Pam |
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8 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Makarios | 106072 | ||
Greetings Pam, What I am saying is this: A person who is saved and commits suicide will still be saved. I agree with you - when a person is saved, all of their sins: past, present and future, are forgiven. I agree with that. And I know why you posted the example of Samson. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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9 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | Pam D | 106102 | ||
Dear Makarios, Thank you for taking time out to respond to me and others on this website. I have seen other postings of yours and benefited greatly from them. I pray that someone trying to understand this subject will benefit from our postings on it in the future. Have a wonderful day! Blessings, Pam |
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