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NASB | Exodus 20:13 ¶ "You shall not murder. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Exodus 20:13 ¶ "You shall not commit murder (unjustified, deliberate homicide). [Gen 9:6; Ex 21:12, 14, 18] |
Subject: Can one who commits suicide be saved? |
Bible Note: I have to refer you back to my original response my friend. You are in serious need of doctrine. Your understanding of Scripture seems to be based at best on your own opinion or assumptions as has been pointed out. As requested before, please provide Scriptural support for your argument. By the way, the word of God does not even suggest that Judas went to Hell because he committed suicide. In fact, it doesn't say he went to Hell at all though we can safely draw that conclusion I believe. It is you, my friend, who needs the advise to study. It is not sufficient to simply take our preconceived notions about how things are or aught to be and then wrap Scripture around them in a way that fits. That, my friend, is what's "wrong here and now" not theology. Look up the word and you will have a better understanding of where I am coming from, I hope. I am not attacking you, but shining light on the inaccuracy of your teaching. That, is what this Form is about. Getting it right and accepting redirection when the Scriptures are doing the directing. If you ever have the time, and are sufficiently bored, research my posts. You will find that I have been there and done that. I am thankful for the redirection I have received by others. without it, I would still be walking around believing in some things that are, well besides being nonsense, untrue. Wouldn't want that. As for "only recognizing scripture when it says this book and this verse then you have a problem" I can't respond other than to say I have no idea what you might mean by that statement. However, that you are at least aware of the "book" 2Timothy and the chapter and verse 2:15 gives me hope that you will find yourself growing in understanding as I do. Don't be discouraged. None of us have all the answers and those of us who are serious about learning and understanding the truth have also had to let go of some of our preconceptions and bad theology. What I have learned over time, is that it is actually a great relief and a great joy when I have been able to let go of a strongly held belief after having the truth revealed by God's word. I want to offer a new beginning point for you that might help in gaining a better understanding regarding Judas (since that seems to be the single bolt your building is hinged on regarding suicide). Study repentance. Not simply the definition, but what it truly means. Once you have a good understanding apply what you have learned to Judas (which will require effort in seriously reviewing Judas life and actions). I believe then that you should have the answer. If not, we will visit the Old Testament for further insight if you are interested. Hope this is helpful, Jeff |