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1 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186678 | ||
If you can only recognize scripture when it says this book and this verse then you have a problem. You might want to study to show yourself approved a workman unto God, before you analyze what I've written. I don't work in theology, i work by the Holy Ghost. Theology is what's wrong here now. If I hadn't have gotten a reply to this today, I wouldn't have responded. But, I did, and I can't just let people go to hell thinking they were right about something that the Bible says is wrong. Don't attack me. STUDY!!! If Judas went to hell for suicide (not for betraying Jesus, because they all did that) then everyone else who does it will. No repentance after that. If you get upset everytime someone doesn't agree with you then that's a sin also. My understanding of this site was for people to get questions about scripture answered. It has been perverted when we started debating about scripture. Do this for yourself. If you really want to know fast and pray and ask God to reveal the answer to you. The Holy Ghost will guide you into all truth. | ||||||
2 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186737 | ||
I have to refer you back to my original response my friend. You are in serious need of doctrine. Your understanding of Scripture seems to be based at best on your own opinion or assumptions as has been pointed out. As requested before, please provide Scriptural support for your argument. By the way, the word of God does not even suggest that Judas went to Hell because he committed suicide. In fact, it doesn't say he went to Hell at all though we can safely draw that conclusion I believe. It is you, my friend, who needs the advise to study. It is not sufficient to simply take our preconceived notions about how things are or aught to be and then wrap Scripture around them in a way that fits. That, my friend, is what's "wrong here and now" not theology. Look up the word and you will have a better understanding of where I am coming from, I hope. I am not attacking you, but shining light on the inaccuracy of your teaching. That, is what this Form is about. Getting it right and accepting redirection when the Scriptures are doing the directing. If you ever have the time, and are sufficiently bored, research my posts. You will find that I have been there and done that. I am thankful for the redirection I have received by others. without it, I would still be walking around believing in some things that are, well besides being nonsense, untrue. Wouldn't want that. As for "only recognizing scripture when it says this book and this verse then you have a problem" I can't respond other than to say I have no idea what you might mean by that statement. However, that you are at least aware of the "book" 2Timothy and the chapter and verse 2:15 gives me hope that you will find yourself growing in understanding as I do. Don't be discouraged. None of us have all the answers and those of us who are serious about learning and understanding the truth have also had to let go of some of our preconceptions and bad theology. What I have learned over time, is that it is actually a great relief and a great joy when I have been able to let go of a strongly held belief after having the truth revealed by God's word. I want to offer a new beginning point for you that might help in gaining a better understanding regarding Judas (since that seems to be the single bolt your building is hinged on regarding suicide). Study repentance. Not simply the definition, but what it truly means. Once you have a good understanding apply what you have learned to Judas (which will require effort in seriously reviewing Judas life and actions). I believe then that you should have the answer. If not, we will visit the Old Testament for further insight if you are interested. Hope this is helpful, Jeff |
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3 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | HeirofGod | 186747 | ||
Please refer to the response I gave yesterday. (Starting with "Thank you for your words...") I must repeat this though, you are not going to sway me. I have quoted scripture from the time I started writing responses to this. We need to quit "arguing" about scripture and get a revelation about them. Have you ever tried to commit suicide? I have!!! I know what it means to repent, I also know the definition. I have been saved a long time my friend. We are sitting here debating about something that is the least bit important at this stage in the time table. Saving souls is what's important now, not what all our opinions are. I use Judas because he is New Testament which is what most people use now to base thier points. I know about Sampson, because we've been there before.(Earlier in this discussion). Let's also, on this point, agree to disagree. You can't move me from where I am, because I have felt what suicidal people feel. I can't move you from where you are. There are alot of things that I've written on this forum that I wish I hadn't been so zealous when I wrote them because they where in err. God has shown me alot about myself since then. People say experience is the best teacher. Unless you've been there you can only talk about it. I know. Sorry I can't come to a better conclusion for you to understand what I mean. Let's stop arguing on here and start edifying people. All of us are saved right? | ||||||
4 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186804 | ||
I agree that arguing about the issue may not at all edify anyone and arguing is rarely productive. I do have to stand by my calling you to account for your teaching with Scripture; but I certainly appreciate that I can not force you too. We can agree to disagree but I can't agree to sit passively by while you or anyone else presents opinion as biblical teaching. You see friend, the matters of life and death and the condition of ones soul are not matters that two differing "opinions" can both be right on. Hardly points to agree to disagree on. Rather, we should do our best to present to others what Scripture says on such matters and remain silent where Scripture is silent. I'm not so interested in "moving you from where you are" as you put it. I'm more concerned about addressing teachings that don't agree with the bible. "All of us are saved right?" No, wrong my friend. I suspect that there might be hundreds if not more who visit this site, some regularly, that are still unsaved. More the reason to insure what we teach is sound. God bless, Jeff |
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