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1 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Grace and Truth | 50985 | ||
Was it complete? Did they Have To Be Baptized or not? Could they refuse it since they were already saved? Why was it necessary for them to be baptized if they were already saved? More than that why did Peter command them to be baptized if it had nothing to do with salvation? Was not thier salvation complete? | ||||||
2 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Mommapbs | 51077 | ||
Greetings Grace and Truth. Tim Moran gave you excellent answers and I agree completely with him. I find it interesting that your screen name is Grace and Truth. Much of what you are concerned about smacks of legalism - the law(Truth) without Grace. You contend that one cannot be saved apart from water baptism. This is a "works based" approach which Jesus came to do away with! Why would anyone want to impose the "law" when the gift of salvation has been freely offered by GRACE to those who simple believe? "For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ." John 1:17 The ORDER here is very important; so is the order of BELIEVE and be BAPTIZED. I know many people who are "completely saved" by their faith in Jesus Christ who have yet to enter the waters of baptism for one reason or another. I KNOW that I will see them in heaven whether or not they have been immersed before their physical death or the Rapture of the church. Maybe God will let them wear a sign saying "unbaptized believers" so you will recognize them too!Truly I empathize with your passion for what you believe, but please don't impose your rules upon those who do not subscribe to this "doctrine!" I'm glad that God is the Judge! I'll continue to place my confidence in HIS GRACE and TRUTH, not the brand that you are peddling! |
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3 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 51086 | ||
Baptism it seems has surely created some barriers even though Eph. 4:5 claims that it is a unifier by the use of the word one, which is the Greek word (HICE). Ephes. 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, The reason it can say this is that it follows the order of, first Lord then faith in Him, Jesus, and the baptism that unifies follows, which is automatic. It is done for us and has nothing to do with water. It is a dry baptism as it were. All of the wet baptisms mentioned in the Bible are nothing more then a ritual. The dry baptisms on the other hand are real and we receive them with out any works on our part; they come about as a result of one's state of mind, that is to say the way you think or one's mind set with regards to Jesus the Christ. There are two dry baptisms, there is one for believers and there is one for unbelievers. The one unifying baptism for believers, mentioned in Eph. 4:5, is the Holy Ghost. The baptism that will unify unbelievers is that of fire; the administrator of both baptisms is the Lord Jesus Christ: John the Baptist knew this truth as he testified to it in Matthew's Gospel as he was speaking to some who would believe and others who would not. Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Every one will receive one baptism or the other and it all depends on what people think of the person of Jesus, the Christ of God, and that will sets the stage for the baptism they will receive. |
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4 | Was it complete? | Bible general Archive 1 | Mommapbs | 51108 | ||
Greetings! Yes! AMEN! However, the contention has surrounded WATER baptism! I agree that we are baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit at the moment of belief - this is all DONE BY GOD, lest anyone should boast!(Eph 2:8-9) I appreciated your comments about the baptism of fire! No water of baptism will be able to extinguish the wrath of God upon those who reject Him! Faith in Jesus is the ONLY fire escape! Blessings, Mommapbs |
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