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1 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | EdB | 67990 | ||
Graceful Your absolutely right experience does not prove anything other than that is what happened to you. And just because someone does not get healed does not mean God does not heal. However it does mean God does not heal everyone of all diseases. EdB |
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2 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | gracefull | 67998 | ||
Ed..Where in heavens name have I said God heals everyone? Just look at every 3rd person you meet. But healing is PROVIDED. Wheather we receive it or not does not make the provision any less? I will not discuss this on this thread any more unless you can explain away 1Peter 2:24 who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed. We are the righteousness of God (God looks at us and sees us through Jesus shed blood..thus healing is provided through faith in the righteousness provided by Jesus. Why were many sick and dying 'not discerning the body of Christ'? 1 Corinthians 11:28-30? |
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3 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | EdB | 68002 | ||
Graceful Clearly 1 Peter 2:24 is not talking about physical healing but rather spiritual healing read it in context. Your are right healing is provided we see it clearly spoken of in James 5:14 I did not say you said God had to heal eveyone. The Health and Wealth teaching your defending does. To your question "Why were many sick and dying 'not discerning the body of Christ'? 1 Corinthians 11:28-30?" Again going to context we clearly see they have taken communion in an unworthy manner verse 27 Do you know what the health and wealth teaching is? Do you know what the WOF teaching is on this matter? You may be defending something you don't believe in. Let me put it simply they teach Isaiah 53:5 is talking about physical healing and that EVERY Christian should be well, and never get sick. If you do get sick it is because you lack faith or have unrepented sin in your life. Have you ever been sick? Why was it because you had to little faith or because we live in a fallen world and Satan comes to kill steal and destroy? Have you ever lost a love one? Why because you didn't have enough faith to pray them well or once again because we live in a fallen world and people die. Furthermore they teach if you ask for anything God has to do it. Therefore if you ask for a 93 foot yacht (an example one used on TV) and believe God has to give you that yacht. Now is that feeding worldly lust or not? Grace I'm not attacking you I'm defending against false teaching. I'm not sure you even beleive in that false teaching. I think you think this whole discussion is about healing it is not. It is the false teaching WOF puts out about healing. EdB |
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4 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | retxar | 68041 | ||
Edb, I’m tip-toeing in here bro, so please believe me that I don’t mean to stir things up, just clarify. I know you are quick to blow the whistle on anything that reassembles WOF, but must an interpretation of Isa 53 that sees it speaking of both spiritual and physical healing, (based on Matthew's commentary) make someone an automatic supporter of all WOF teaching? I know a person does not have to support all the teaching of a particular church to go there, but this is from the AOG’s (which we both attend) official Statement of Fundamental Truths (#12) concerning divine healing: ‘Divine healing is an integral part of the gospel. Deliverance from sickness is provided for in the atonement, and is the privilege of all believers. Isa 53:4-5, Mat 8:16-17, Jam 5:14-16.’ (Notice the Isaiah reference) The AOG also has a positional paper concerning some of the abuses going on in the positive confession movement. It says (in part): ‘When the positive confession teaching indicates that to admit weakness is to accept defeat, to admit financial need is to accept poverty, and to admit sickness is to preclude healing, it is going beyond and is contrary to the harmony of Scripture.’ I agree with both these statements. Please look them up to see if I have presented anything out of context. So, I guess what I am trying to say, is that it is possible, and I think scriptural, for a believer to take the stand that divine healing was provided for in the atonement (but certainly not the focus), without being one of them thar evil WOF boys. I appreciate your contributions on the forum and for listening to me bro! retxar |
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5 | Is God's will prosperity/healing always? | Rom 8:28 | EdB | 68062 | ||
Retxar Your question, "I’m tip-toeing in here bro, so please believe me that I don’t mean to stir things up, just clarify. I know you are quick to blow the whistle on anything that reassembles WOF, but must an interpretation of Isa 53 that sees it speaking of both spiritual and physical healing, (based on Matthew's commentary) make someone an automatic supporter of all WOF teaching? " My answer, "CERTAINLY NOT", “ NO” and “NO WAY”!!! And that is not what I said or intended to say. Please read my whole response. I said WOF believed Is 53:5 was talking about physical healing and therefore every REAL Christian had to walk in health. If you weren't healthy you either did not possess enough faith OR you had unconfessed sin in your life. Listen to their teaching they use a lot of words but that is exactly what they teach. If the above were true then clearly Paul, Timothy and thousands of fine Christians through the ages were either lacking in faith or walking in sin. WOF even goes to the extreme of saying Job and others brought their trouble upon themselves. Retxar the fact you read into what I was saying is the reason I jump so quickly on WOF. Their lies sound so close to the authentic that many start losing sight of what is true and what isn’t and soon their teaching gets blended in and everyone wants to know what the big problem is. Jesus did in fact provide for healing, He gave us a “holy prescription” James 5:14-15. This verse alone should prove that healing isn’t automatic, that some Christian’s will and do get sick and need healing and that God is in the healing. I have personally received healings using the prescription found in James 5:14-15 and I have prayed for many others that received a healing using this prescription. To me healing is very real and I believe in it with ALL my heart. But I also believe that God’s will over rides and accomplishes His desires before all else. Retxar thanks for giving me an opportunity to explain my position further. EdB |
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