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1 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | kalos | 57026 | ||
"If you don't understand covenant you cannot understand, in totality, the issue of baptism because baptism is a covenant sign. Covenant signs do not save. The things they represent are what save." "Baptism is not a requirement of salvation, but it is so closely tied to it that some people erringly think it is the actual thing that saves. It isn't. Faith in Christ is what saves." ------------- Are we saved by faith or by baptism? 'CHRISTIAN APOLOGETICS and RESEARCH MINISTRY (www.carm.org) 'Are we saved by faith or by baptism? Romans 5:1; Ephesians 2:8-9 and Acts 2:38; 22:16; 1 Peter 3:21 '1. Saved by faith 'A. (Romans 5:1) - "Therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." 'B. (Ephesians 2:8-9) - "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast." '2. Saved by baptism 'A. (Acts 2:38) - "And Peter said to them, "Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." 'B. (Acts 22:16) - "And now why do you delay? Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name." 'C.(1 Peter 3:21) - "And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ," ' There is much debate within Christianity as to whether or not baptism is necessary for salvation. I cannot here exhaustively examine this issue, but I can affirm that baptism is not necessary for salvation. The scriptures teach that justification is by faith (Rom. 5:1). It also teaches that baptism is a necessary result of becoming a disciple of Christ (Matt. 28:18-19). Even 1 Peter 3:21 above says that the baptism mentioned is not one dealing with water, but an appeal to God. ' God works covenantally. A covenant is a pact or agreement between two or more parties. The New Testament and Old Testaments are New and Old Covenants. The word "testament" comes from the Latin testamentum which means covenant. So, the Bible is a covenant document. If you don't understand covenant you cannot understand, in totality, the issue of baptism because baptism is a covenant sign. Covenant signs do not save. The things they represent are what save. ' Regeneration occurs by faith (Rom. 5:1). Afterwards, baptism is administered as an outward representation of an inward reality. For example, it represents the reality of the inward washing of Christ's blood upon the soul. That is why it is used in different ways. It is said to represent the death of the person (Rom. 6:3-5), the union of that person with Christ (Gal. 3:27), the cleansing of that person's sins (Acts 22:16), the identification with the one "baptized into" as when the Israelites were baptized into Moses (1 Cor. 10:2), and being united in one church (1 Cor. 12:13). Also, baptism is one of the signs and seals of the Covenant of Grace that was instituted by Jesus. ' Baptism is not a requirement of salvation, but it is so closely tied to it that some people erringly think it is the actual thing that saves. It isn't. Faith in Christ is what saves. ' For a more complete analysis of this issue, please see Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation?' (http://www.carm.org/diff/Rom5_1.htm) |
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2 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | rferg | 57037 | ||
A covenant is a contract between two. I willing made a choice after hearing the gospel. The covenant I made with God was that I believed that by looking to the Ten Commandments I realized I was a sinner and needed a savior. I believe that God the Father sent his Son through a virgin birth, who died, was burried, and rose again and took my place on the cross. Through baptism I died with Christ and was raised anew. I was filled with the Holy Spirit of promise. I agree to obey God and his commandments. Baptism was also my signature to the covenant that I have with God. Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God. You have to be Spirit. My concern is for those who have excepted Christ and for the unsaved. Many have not heard the entire gospel. When they are not preaching the entire gospel, which is including if you "believe" you should be baptized. When or if a new believer reads their bible and see's the word baptism they will not know what it means or it can cause confusion. I have also been asking many teenagers who are in Christian families if their kids are baptized and they say no and we wonder why we have kids raised in a christian home and they have no power to live like Christians. These same kids say they believe. Where is the power from the Holy Spirit to lead them in paths of righteousness? |
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