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1 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56208 | ||
"Yet, when Paul was asked what a person must do to be saved, he said: "...‘‘Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”" Acts 16:31." I notice that you close the book after reading Acts 16:31, if you continue to read you will find the "real" answers, let's look and see. Acts 16:32-34, And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. Question: was anything mentioned about baptism in the message? Let's see the responce. vs. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; And was Baptized, He and All His, straightway. Question: Why do you leave this information out of the answer to the Jailers question? (Acts 16:32-33) What are you hiding? When dealing with the question of salvation, we should aways give All of the information that the bible gives, because the Bible is Right! "1) John 1:12 - "Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—" " Key word in this text is (become) Jesus said in John 3:5 you Must be born of the water and the Spirit to enter into the kingdom of God. And, we could go on and on. However, all of these verses are clear that the only requirement for salvation is faith. An excellent example is the believers in Acts 10, who were filled with the Holy Spirit (thus saved), before they were baptized. I notice you incerted the words (thus saved), but there are eight other conversions in Acts that didn't happen the same way as Acts 10 so I believe that this conversion is something that God was telling Peter and the Jewest brothers about the Gentiles, which is a whole subject by itself. I can tell you this, I'm not saying that baptism all by itself saves anyone, but (through Faith) along with blief, repentance, and confessing Jesus Christ name saves a person. "love one another, pray for one another, assemble together, be witnesses, ect.... However, none of these 'works' save us. They are things we do because we are saved, not thing which save us." None of these but one (be witnesses) were in the Great commission to the apostles. When we start at the beginning when Jesus told his apostles to go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: You will not fall into the trap of thinking that baptism in not neccessary for salvation. Examine the Great commissions it will become clear. Then look at the first sermon on the day of Pentecost, and the answer to the question Men and bretheren what shall we do? I read a post that was written to grace and truth, and it said that no one on this forum had changed their minds about (being saved by grace through faith only) I thought that was sad, because if it was a matter of eternal life and I found out I was wrong about something in Gods word I would change in a flash. Life is to short to play games with God's word. |
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2 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | Morant61 | 56214 | ||
Greetings the Bible is Right! 1) Does Acts 16 mention baptism? Yes, of course is does. The normal routine was for someone who had been saved to obey the command of Christ and be baptized. However, in Paul's response about what one must DO to be saved, baptism is noticebly absent! So, am I hiding something? No! :-) But, Paul never said that the jailer must be baptized to be saved did he! 2) What about John 3:5? This has been dealt with many times, but John 3:5 never mentions baptism. It does mention being born of water, but this is explained in the very next birth as being physical or natural birth. 3) You say that baptism alone does not save, but Scripture does say that faith alone saves (Eph. 2:8-9) and Scripture explictly rules out any role of works in salvation. The good news my friend is that we can't nor need to do anything to be saved. I don't know why so many keep trying to add something to free grace! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56237 | ||
Now to rightly handle scripture, you must go by the results and outcome of the whole story, let's look, verse 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. What do we learn here, Paul and Silas spoke unto them the Word of the Lord, What words, did they tell them to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of there sins? I believe that's exactly what they were told, Acts 2:38, 8:35-39. "But, Paul never said that the jailer must be baptized to be saved did he!" If Paul or Silas spake the word of the Lord, they were told to repent and be baptized, because that's what the Lord said to do Acts 2:38; 8:35-39 "What about John 3:5? This has been dealt with many times, but John 3:5 never mentions baptism. It does mention being born of water, but this is explained in the very next birth as being physical or natural birth." Tell me please, that you don't believe John 3:5 is talking about "phyiscal or natural birth" because Nicodemus brought that up in verse 4 when he said "How can a man be born when he is old? can be enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? So for anyone to believe that is verse 5 is talking about phyisical or natural birth are wrong, wrong, wrong. And the Bible is right! "3) You say that baptism alone does not save, but Scripture does say that faith alone saves (Eph. 2:8-9) and Scripture explictly rules out any role of works in salvation." The bible talks about three kinds of faith, and for anyone to believe that faith alone saves, have very weak faith. Strong faith produces action, and all who heard the gospel obeyed what they heard and the Lord added them to the church. Eph.2:6 says he raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: vs. 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. If you can prove with the bible that this verse is talking about baptism I would believe it! The text does not say, Faith alone! All those in this church were baptized into Christ. |
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