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NASB | Acts 8:13 Even Simon himself believed; and after being baptized, he continued on with Philip, and as he observed signs and great miracles taking place, he was constantly amazed. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Acts 8:13 Even Simon believed [Philip's message of salvation]; and after being baptized, he continued on with Philip, and as he watched the attesting signs and great miracles taking place, he was constantly amazed. |
Subject: How do I make sense of the context? |
Bible Note: Joe Your absolutely correct for a studied Mormon that is what they are taught and I have met some that do not buy into this. I think you will agree most Mormons do not understand or relate to this church doctrine unless they have been in the church for longer than a few years. That line of teaching is brought upon the Mormon convert slowly and very carefully in fear they may bolt and run. If you won't agree then your being argumentative and not dealing truthfully here. Now let's take a new Mormon. What are they seeking? I have yet to find one that hasn't said forgivenness of sin. They will quote you Romans 3:23. Where do they think the forgiveness comes from? From their belief in Jesus Christ and they will quote you John 3:16. Now admittedly the Jesus they put their hope in is a conterfeit, but they reached the point you said is impossible for man to reach unless he is elected? Why is Calvinism offensive? (seriously I never heard it described as offensive) He is the one that developed the Tulip that defined what you believe and made men like Jacob Arminius stand to defend what they held as truth? Joe I understand your belief on guilt and how man is helpless to do anything about it unless he is elected. Even in the face of the John 3:16 which says God so loved the world (not just the elect or the ones that would choose Him but the world) that He sent His only begotten Son that whosoever (again not just the elect) would believe in Him and have everlasting life. 1 John 2:2 even says it clearer. "and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." Now we can argue what "WHOLE" means. Or would you like to argue over how many angels fit on the head of a pin? Explain why a newbie Mormon isn't at the place you say a man can't reach unless he is elected. EdB |