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1 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | EdB | 70105 | ||
John Is grace irrestistable or or so desirable no normal person would refuse it. If people are blind than how did Mormons know enough to seek Jesus? And I'm not forgeting their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. EdB |
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2 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | John Reformed | 70187 | ||
Dear Ed, Q1.)Is grace irrestistable or so desirable no normal person would refuse it. Ans.)Grace is irresistable to whom it is given. God does not give it based on the "normalcy" of an individual but on the basis of election. Rom 8:30 "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified". Q2.)If people are blind than how did Mormons know enough to seek Jesus? And I'm not forgeting their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. Ans.) Unsaved people are not merely blind but are "dead men walking".Eph 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins," Reprobates will worship anything but the true God. They are virtual "idol factories". A question for you: If mormans are not blind then how is it they cannot see that they worship a false christ? John |
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3 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | EdB | 70193 | ||
John Q1.)Is grace irrestistable or so desirable no normal person would refuse it. Ans.)Grace is irresistable to whom it is given. God does not give it based on the "normalcy" of an individual but on the basis of election. Rom 8:30 "Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified". Then to the elect he has no choice. He has been by your definition exposed to something he can not resist. Therefore any discussion on willingness is mote. Q2.)If people are blind than how did Mormons know enough to seek Jesus? And I'm not forgeting their Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. Ans.) Unsaved people are not merely blind but are "dead men walking".Eph 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins," Reprobates will worship anything but the true God. They are virtual "idol factories". But they did know they were in sin, they did seek forgiveness of that sin, they did understand the blood of Jesus paying for that sin, they accept Jesus as payment for that sin, and if asked they claim they are trusting in nothing less more than Jesus. Seems pretty enlightened to me. Maybe there is more to slvation than calvins pat answers provide. Maybe this is the mystery that I have been saying for weeks neither Calvin nor Arminius can define. Because we are finite people trying to define a infinite God working in infinite ways in the lives of infinite people. A question for you: If Mormons are not blind then how is it they cannot see that they worship a false christ? Again I do not know the answer. But this I know neither you nor Joe have provided a satisfactory answer to this question either. Which to me says there is much Calvinism (I hope you don't view this as an insult as Joe does, if you do I apologize) can not explain about the salvation process. I have readily admitted Salvation is a mystery. One I stand in awe of every time it occurs. It's a miracle, the greatest miracle the eye can behold. But my point is if your Calvinism can't adequately explain the process then it obviously isn’t the correct answer. That is the point I have been trying to make every time we enter this discussion. Calvinism, Armianism, or whatever does not adequately define God’s call to lost man.. To sit here and argue my way is righter than your way is silly. EdB |
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4 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Reformer Joe | 70197 | ||
"'A question for you: If Mormons are not blind then how is it they cannot see that they worship a false christ?' Again I do not know the answer. But this I know neither you nor Joe have provided a satisfactory answer to this question either." I cannot help it if you find the Bible's answer of "they don't want to" to be unsatisfactory. It is the only one I have to offer. --Joe! |
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5 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | EdB | 70200 | ||
Joe That suggests they have a choice which I thought you have been saying man can't choose salvation, he has to be elected to it. EdB |
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6 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Reformer Joe | 70217 | ||
In this case man isn't choosing salvation; he is choosing damnation. Our choices are determined by our natures. Unregenerate man can choose all kinds of things, but his nature is such that he will not WANT to truly embrace Jesus Christ. Just like my nature is such that I cannot bring myself to like eating sawdust, the unregenerate's nature is such that he cannot bring himself to want the true Jesus on His terms. Another example would be a herbivore's natural aversion to eating flesh. There is nothing external or physical stopping a plant-eating animal from chewing on a carcass, but its nature is such that the animal will never choose to do so. That is why I am careful to distinguish between one's WILL and one's NATURE. Our wills are free in a limited sense, but they are constrained by opportunity, by our own power to affect change around us, and by our own spiritual natures. That is why I speak of God giving us a new nature. Before possessing my new nature, I willfully chose not to receive Christ; it was my nature to do so, and I had no problem with it. When God called, however, my nature was changed so that I realized the necessity of responding to that call and the love of God for me in His sending Jesus to die for me. Before, I didn't desire Christ, just as those who reject my evangelistic efforts do not desire Christ. They willfully push it away, and would willingly choose anything else as their highest desire (even a false Christ). God gave me a new nature, and the Christ-hater THEN becomes the Christ-lover, and gladly does so. --Joe! |
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7 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | EdB | 70258 | ||
Joe To what you have written in response to the Mormon discussion I disagree. They were brought to a choice and they made it. That is choice. To everything else you have written I'm in agreement with the caveat that God offers this to "all" men as clearly stated in the Bible, and we know some men for whatever reason reject it. EdB |
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