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1 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Hank | 69851 | ||
David_24597: I must confess to something that I read in your post that I have not read in Scripture, and therefore ask you to point it out for my soul's benefit; to wit, this "conjunction of Jesus' actions with my own actions that saves me." --Hank | ||||||
2 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | cwade | 69856 | ||
Hank, it's me again... just wondering if my thinking is correct here... Adam's sin is imputed to all of us right? So we are all guilty even before we commit specific acts of sin...correct? (To some, this might seem unfair), But THANK GOD!!! it's not, because our salvation works the same way, doesn't it? Believer's sins are also forgiven by imputation. God held Jesus accountable for ALL our sins (repented of, and not repented of)... (just like he used to find us guilty of sins committed and not committed). That seems "fair" to me! The reason God wants us to repent of sins, is so that we realize we have sinned and learn from our mistakes...right? | ||||||
3 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Hank | 69910 | ||
cwade, what God wants from His children is expressed by the Greek word koinonia. This word most often carries the sense of communion, fellowship, or close relationship. The term refers to an association involving close mutual relations and involvement. See how John uses the word (translated fellowship) in 1 John 1:3: "What we have seen and heard we also declare to you, so that you may have fellowship along with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ." And again, in v.6: "If we say, 'We have fellowship with Him,' and walk in darkness, we are lying and not practicing the truth." ..... A key element in maintaining koinonia with God is prayer: pray without ceasing. And a key element in the pattern prayer that Jesus taught His disciples (see Matt. 6:5-15) is the petition to "forgive us our debts" which refers to obligations we incur, i.e., sins of omission and commission. And forgiveness, of course, means the cancellation of these debts or obligations, these sins. But notice also the second part of this petition: "as we also have forgiven our debtors." Jesus makes it clear that "if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions." (Matt.6:15). --Hank | ||||||
4 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | CDBJ | 69920 | ||
Greetings Hank, I got in a long discussion on the topic of the last part of your post one day in a Bible study that I was conducting. There is a real gray area in this verse that is open for debate, if you know what I mean, believe in Jesus, verses forgiving others? " But notice also the second part of this petition: “as we also have forgiven our debtors." Jesus makes it clear that "if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions." (Matt.6:15). We both know that there are no contradictions in God’s Word but I was being hung out to dry on this one; any help? CDBJ |
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5 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Hank | 69937 | ||
Merry Christmas, CDBJ. Please pardon my dullness, but I'm not sure wherein the "gray area" lies. Does it concern the forgiving of others being a pre-requisite to one's salvation? In the context of Matthew 6:5-15, Jesus is addressing believers concerning how to pray (cf.Luke 11:1), so He is not speaking to unbelievers about salvation but to believers about prayer. It appears that in this specific passage the other issue, i.e., of forgiving others as being a pre-requisite to salvation (if that is the issue in the "gray area"), does not enter into Jesus' discourse -- not here, at any rate. I post this in fear that I've done a poor job in attempting to address the question. --Hank | ||||||
6 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | CDBJ | 69946 | ||
Marry Christmas to you also Hank, my PC was on the blink for a while and that is why I haven’t been on the forum for some time now. My answer to the question of the gray area was the same response that you gave but then the question came back to me in the study as follows. If Jesus was speaking to believers and that is how their sin was to be forgiven for that particular sin then that would negate the function of I John 1:9 with regard to those that have sinned against us and our forgiveness. Case and point, that was pointed out to me; if one sins against me and I don’t forgive them, and lets say they leave the area of my contact, would the function of I John 1:9 still work for me in this situation? Now do you see the pickle that I was in? I couldn’t say yes, and cause the verse in Matthew 6 to be wrong or say no and have it be wrong in I John 1:9. How do people think of these things anyway? CDBJ |
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7 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Hank | 69958 | ||
CDBJ: Having led Bible study groups of various ages for some quarter century I am, believe me, quite acquainted with the occasional kibitzer or wise guy who is exceptionally adroit in asking stupid questions or bringing up issues that nobody in his right mind would ever consider :-) ...... The petition in the model prayer (Mt.6:12) is "to forgive us our debts." What follows that is "as we also have forgiven our debtors." This is not a petition but an affirmation. Thus we have no business praying this prayer unless we have forgiven our debtors. If we do pray it and have not forgiven others their trespasses, we are lying to God. But 1 John 1:9 provides us a remedy. It says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Certainly being unforgiving of others is a sin, it is unrighteousness, and it, along with all other sins, should be confessed to God when we approach Him in prayer. I have had occasions in my life when I could not find it in my heart totally and completely to forgive others for wrongs they had done to me, so I confessed my sin of being unforgiving of others and petitioned God for strength to be forgiving as I have been forgiven. Prayer, what a blessing! Wasn't it Tennyson who said, "More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of."? --Hank | ||||||
8 | How do I make sense of the context? | Acts 8:13 | Morant61 | 69980 | ||
Greetings Hank! I have really appreciated your comments on the relationship between our ability to forgive and our forgiveness my friend! A few years ago, I memorized the Sermon on the Mount. Everytime I got to Mt. 6:14-15, I was struck with a sense of 'Holy dread', one might say! What a powerful message! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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