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1 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | Teacher | 66968 | ||
"If the word isn't there doesn't mean it didn't happen". Those are your words. Use them to answer your own question of "So when were the 11 rebaptized?" If we have one example of persons being rebaptized as we do in Acts 19 we can, by necessary inference, infer that it would be necessary for all that had been baptized into John's baptism. In order to answer your question "How could the 12 be baptized into John while John was still alive ... why would they, since they were His disciples?" you must learn the purpose of John's baptism and the purpose of Jesus' baptism. I will let you search for this answer yourself, if you like. Paul tells us in Hebrews 6, "Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,[1] and of faith in God, 2instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. 3And God permitting, we will do so." Paul says that "instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, etc." are "elementary teachings". Anyone who has been studying God's word for any length of time should have learned of these and gone "on to maturity". |
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2 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | stjones | 67011 | ||
Teacher; 'Paul says that "instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, etc." are "elementary teachings". Anyone who has been studying God's word for any length of time should have learned of these and gone "on to maturity".' Quite so, as Tim and others have demonstrated. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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3 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | Teacher | 67133 | ||
You miss the point. Paul is implying that these are fundamental, basic teachings, that all Christians should already know about. Heb 6:1 "Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of instruction about washings and laying on of hands, and the resurrection of the dead and eternal judgment. All of these subjects listed are basic, fundamental, and foundational teachings of Christianity. 1. repentance from dead works 2. faith toward God 3. instruction about washings (meaning baptism) 4. laying on of hands 5. resurrection of the dead 6. eternal judgment You, Searcher56, Brother Moran, and anyone else may continue believing what you wish, but the truth is evident and cannot be denied. As the song goes, "On the solid rock I stand, all others are sinking sand". As important as this issue is to resolve, it will not be resolved on this forum. You feel I am being closed minded and hard hearted, I feel you are the same. If we continue bantering back and forth as we are nothing good can come of it. I read Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. God's grace supplied the way, our faith gives us access to it. This faith requires obedience to certain things, else all will be saved. If all I have to do is say I believe in Jesus, with sincerity, how am I any better than the demons spoken of in James 2:19? Are they sincere in their belief? I think so. They are spiritual beings and would know. No one, not one of you has shown me where the bible says, specifically, that baptism is a work. Why? Because it is not there. Why is baptism such a stumbling block for people who earnestly desire to serve God? Jesus said to do it, his apostles said to do it, and there is ample evidence, if you look for it, to show that it is necessary for salvation. It has a spiritual purpose and produces spiritual results even if we do not see them. |
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4 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | stjones | 67138 | ||
Teacher; You said "You feel I am being closed minded and hard hearted". And I guess my note sounded that way; I apologize. But I didn't miss the point. My point was that Paul's admonition applies to anyone who still doesn't "get" baptism, whether that someone is you or Tim or me. You ask for a passage that specifically calls baptism a work. There is none. I ask you for a passage that specifically says no one who is not baptized will be saved. There is none. So Christians are left to study the Bible and seek to understand and apply what it says. You may imagine that Paul would find your views to be "mature". Based on what Paul wrote about salvation, I disagree. Further, Paul - having demonstrated his own spiritual maturity - had earned the right to admonish Christians as he did. You have not; neither have I. I am afraid that you have missed the point of this forum and the community it represents. We have not been sitting around waiting for you to explain the Bible to us; you take your handle "Teacher" entirely too seriously. Many of us have spent a fair amount of time reading and studying the Bible and discussing it with other believers, some of them right here. There are members of this forum who have, over time, clearly demonstrated their wisdom and maturity. They have also demonstrated willingness to engage in thoughtful, respectful dialog with people who disagree with them. Dialog means more than simply pushing a view. It also means paying attention to the points raised by the other person and providing a response beyond a mere re-hashing of previous claims. Which brings me to your example of the demons. Faith is not just believing that Jesus' claims were true. Faith is recognizing our own unworthiness and trusting in Jesus for our salvation - trusting to the extent of exchanging our lives for his. The demons didn't do that. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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5 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | Teacher | 67143 | ||
Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. The response to belief is baptism unto salvation, the response to disbelief is condemnation. If a person believes they will be baptized because of their belief. If a person does not believe they will not be baptized because of their unbelief. Based on the rest of your post, I believe I must take my leave of the forum. I bid you all adieu. |
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6 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | stjones | 67148 | ||
Hi, Teacher; Well, don't go on my account. I don't speak for the rest of the forum. Note: condemnation is for unbelief, not unbaptism. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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7 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | Teacher | 67151 | ||
Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; If a person believes they will be baptized because of their belief. According to this salvation is a result of belief and baptism. but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. If a person does not believe they will not be baptized because of their unbelief. The result of this is condemnation. |
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8 | Teacher, when were the 11 rebaptized? | Romans | stjones | 67155 | ||
Hi, Teacher; Glad you stuck around. Joel: "All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved", quoted by Peter in his Pentecost sermon. Note "all who call upon the name of the Lord" without any additional qualification. Can we agree to disagree while conceding that neither one of us has God all figured out? Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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