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1 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66906 | ||
And that is the way I took it, my friend, in good humor. In an attempt to justify your teaching you use one scripture in Acts 10 to explain away all other scripture dealing with the subject. Whoever said that Cornelius' conversion in Acts 10 is a "special circumstance" is correct for if you read the entire chapter and understand that Peter was "called" to go to Cornelius in order for God to show that salvation had come to Gentiles also, you will see that it all fits together in harmony. My exegesis is as follows: ch 10.1-8 Cornelius is described as a devout man who feared God, although a Gentile, praying to God always. An angel of the Lord appears to him and tells him to send men to Joppa to fetch Peter. Vs. 6, "He will tell you what you must do." Vs. 9-16 In Peter's vision he sees all manner of four footed beasts. A voice tells him, "Rise, Peter, kill and eat." Peter says no because they are unclean. The voice replies, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." This was done three times. Vs. 17-23 The men who Cornelius sent arrive at Peter's, he agrees to go with them (as instructed by the Spirit, vs 19,20), and Peter takes "some brethren (Christian Jews) from Joppa" with him. Vs. 24-33 Peter arrives at the home of Cornelius. Vs. 28 Peter states the purpose of his visit, recalling his vision from God, and saying that he "should not call any man common or unclean". Cornelius tells Peter of his vision that caused him to send for Peter. Vs. 33 says, "we are all present before God, to hear all the things commanded you by God." Vs. 34-43 Peter begins his sermon to the household of Cornelius. As he was doing this (vs 44), the Holy Spirit "fell upon all those who heard the word" (vs 44). Vs. 45 "And those of the circumcision who believed (meaning Jewish Christians in today's terms) were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift had been poured out on the Gentiles also." Let me stop here to raise a couple of points. 1. Nowhere in Peter's sermon, that we know of, did he mention either repentance or baptism. 2. The Holy Spirit fell upon Cornelius and Co. even before repentance. Where in the scripture does it say that had repented or that they were even saved? Where in the bible does it say being baptized with the Holy Spirit saves us? This is an assumption made in error. The baptism of the Holy Spirit was evidenced by these "Gentiles" speaking in tongues and magnifying God. The bible does not teach that this evidence is evidence of salvation. The bible does teach, however, that we are cleansed through the blood of Christ (1 Jn 1.7) and that we come into contact with the blood of Christ, meaning his death, through baptism (Rom 6.3). 3. The purpose of all of this was to show that Gentiles are accepted by God as well as Jews. You must agree that the need for circumcision prior to salvation was a huge topic of debate in those days (dangerously similar to the need for baptism, the difference being circumcision is NOT taught as a requirement, baptism IS). If we regress back to vs. 15, "What God has cleansed you must not call common" and couple it with vs. 45, "And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift had been poured out on the Gentiles also" we can see that this example of conversion was to prove to Jews that Gentiles could obtain the same salvation as Jews. As is commanded elsewhere in the New Testament (Mt 28.19, Mk 16.16, Acts 2.38, 8.36, 16.15,33, 22.16) in Acts 10.48 Peter commands them to be baptized in the name of the Lord, and this, in our Lord's own words, "is fitting to fulfill all righteousness (Mt 3.15). Jesus himself, although not necessary, was baptized because he had to fulfull all righteousness. So we also must in order to fulfill all righteousness. |
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2 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | BradK | 66918 | ||
Dear Teacher, Allow me to interject into this dialogue. Our brother, Tim Moran has spoken very wisely and accurately in exegeting the truths of Acts 2:38 and Chap. 10. I would concur with his interpretation as it is both grammatically correct and consistent with the whole of scripture! You state: " Where in the scripture does it say that had repented or that they were even saved? Where in the bible does it say being baptized with the Holy Spirit saves us? This is an assumption made in error." Though there is no specific or direct statement in scripture, please consider the often overlooked truth of 1 Cor.12:13. I believe Dr. Kenneth Wuest has done a tremendous job in explaining what this baptism is in his Word Studies, Untranslatable Riches, Chap.IV. The Holy Spirit is literally the "agent" that places us into vital union with Christ Jesus. The "baptism" referred to in 1 Cor. 12:13 is obviously spiritual and it is not that we are baptized "with", but rather "by". A further question: Does Faith equal belief plus baptism? What about Gal.5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66958 | ||
Dr. Kenneth Weust says, "The Holy Spirit is literally the "agent" that places us into vital union with Christ Jesus. The "baptism" referred to in 1 Cor. 12:13 is obviously spiritual and it is not that we are baptized "with", but rather "by". " The bible says, "1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit." The bible says neither "with" or "by", but "into". I agree that the physical act of baptism does not do the saving but the grace of God, through the act of baptism, puts us in touch with the death of Christ (Rom 6.3, Gal 3.27). BradK asks, "Does Faith equal belief plus baptism?" On the contrary. Faith equals belief, belief includes baptism (Mk 16.16, belief AND baptism EQUALs salvation, Acts 2.38 repent AND be baptized FOR forgiveness). What about Gal.5:6 "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love"? Gal 5.6 says, "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love." I realize that I made the comment, "You must agree that the need for circumcision prior to salvation was a huge topic of debate in those days (dangerously similar to the need for baptism, the difference being circumcision is NOT taught as a requirement, baptism IS). Circumcision was commanded by God under the old law. The old law was nailed to the cross with Jesus, Col 2.14. Jewish Christians, still holding to the old law, attempted to make an old law practice, circumcision, a prerequisite to salvation. Baptism is now commanded by God under the new law. It is a prerequisite to salvation under the new law and the bible does teach it. Gal 2:16 nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. |
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4 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 66976 | ||
Greetings Teacher! One quick correction, if I may? You wrote: "The bible says neither "with" or "by", but "into"." However, the verse in question does say 'by'! Here is the text of 1 Cor. 12:13 with the work 'by' in all caps. "For we were all baptized BY one Spirit into one body?whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free?and we were all given the one Spirit to drink." Brad's point about this verse was valid. The Spirit baptizes us into the body of Christ. This baptism is not water baptism, but spiritual. It is also this baptism to which I believe John 3:5 refers. "Jesus answered, ??I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit." First of all, notice that the word baptism does not appear in this passage, so seeing it as a reference to water baptism is a major stretch. Secondly, the contrast is not between baptized and un-baptized, but physical birth and spiritual birth, as made clear in John 3:6. So, the baptism which saves, is not water baptism, but the baptism by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ. This baptism takes place at the moment of faith and is not dependent upon anything we do! :-) Concerning your comments about circumcision and baptism. You are partly correct in the sense that circumcision was part of the Law of Moses and baptism was not. However, I do think that you still miss the major point of Galatians. You have simply substituded one law for another. Yet, Paul argues throughout Galatians that salvation is not based upon law period, but upon promise. You still make the same error that the Judaizers made in that you still believe that there is something which we must 'do' to be saved. Gal. 3:20 streses that no law can save. If one could, then the Law of Moses would have been it - "Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law." Old law, or new, it cannot save! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67130 | ||
Brother Moran, if a person does not have to do anything then how is one saved? | ||||||
6 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 67132 | ||
Greetings Teacher! Funny you should ask that question my friend, since someone once asked Paul the same thing: Acts 16:30-31: "He then brought them out and asked, ??Sirs, what must I do to be saved?? 31 They replied, ??Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved?you and your household.?" The Jews even asked Jesus what we must do. He replied: John 6:28-29: "Then they asked him, ??What must we do to do the works God requires?? 29 Jesus answered, ??The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.?" Acts 13:38-39 says: " ??Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39 Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses." John 3:16 says: "??For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:36 says: "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God?s wrath remains on him.?" John 6:47 says, "I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life." The whole point of all these verses is that salvation is not based upon anything that we do, but upon what Christ did. Listen to what Paul said about grace and works: Rom. 4:2 - "If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about?...." Rom. 4:4 - "Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation." 2 Tim. 1:9 - "who has saved us and called us to a holy life?not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time," What do we have to do? Nothing! Christ did it all! That is the beauty of the Gospel message. That is also why people struggle so mightly with the Gospel message. Deep down, we don't want grace, we want to earn salvation. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67134 | ||
OK, so what is involved in believing? |
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8 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 67141 | ||
Greetings Teacher! The simplest answer to your question is found in Rom. 10: Rom. 10:13-14 says,"for, ??Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.? 14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" Rom. 10:17 says, "Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ." So, what is involved in believing is: 1) Hearing the message of the Gospel! 2) Responding to the message of the Gospel in faith! Christ has already accomplished our salvation on the cross and offers it to us as a gift, we simply have to believe! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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9 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67149 | ||
If this is it, then why have baptism at all? From what you have told me it is totally unnecessary for salvation. If I am saved upon belief how can there be more that needs to be done? Why does the New Testament speak so much about it and its purpose if it doesn't serve a purpose in the plan of salvation? | ||||||
10 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 67153 | ||
Greetings Teacher! You got it! ;-) Not everything worth doing has to save us! We are commanded to do lots of things in Scripture that don't save us. We do them because: a) We are commanded to do so! b) We have a new nature that is able to do good works. c) They serve some other purpose. Those who were baptized last week at our local church were a wonderful example of the purpose of baptism. They wanted to be obedient to God's command. They also wanted to publically declare their committment to Christ. Baptism is a wonderful testimony of what God has done for us in Christ. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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11 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67158 | ||
Acts 22:16 'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name Paul believed but he was still in sin. What takes away sin? "be baptized, AND wash away your sins" God's word, not mine. Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; God's word, not mine! These people in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost believed for it was this belief that caused them to ask "Brethren, what shall we do?" They BELIEVED. Did Peter say, "you don't have to do anything else, you are saved"? No he told them what they had to do. They had to be forgiven of their sin and, according to Acts 2:38 they had to be baptized in order for God's forgiveness to take effect. "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." 32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. 33 And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. At what point did the Philippian jailor believe? vs 31 when he was told to? vs 32 after the word was spoken to him? Brother Moran points out this passage in Romans. Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." 14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? 15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!" 16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. Vs 15, How will they preach unless they are sent? This is answered in Mark 16:15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned." Jesus sent his apostles out to preach the gospel. What is the gospel? Salvation has come to all mankind through Jesus the Christ. Jesus HIMSELF said, "He who believes AND is baptized shall be saved." He who believes the gospel and is baptized for what? Forgiveness of sin (Acts 2:38), to wash away your sins (Acts 22:16), "baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ," (1 Pet 3:21) At what point does a believer have a clear conscience? Before baptism? NO, after! God's word, not mine! Belief AND baptism are included in the equation for salvation. This is not legalism! It is a command by God! Men have perverted God's word to make it into a work, a deed, something that it is not. |
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12 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 67160 | ||
Greetings Teacher! All these points have been addressed over and over again. We'll just have to let the readers decide for themselves my friend. Is something we do a work or not? Based upon the definition, I would say of course it is. But, let's carry your position further. If I must be obedient to be saved, what if I tell a lie? Would I then be unsaved? If I can be unsaved by what I do or don't do, isn't my salvation then dependent upon MY WORKS? This by definition is legalism. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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13 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67164 | ||
1 john 1:9 Was this written to christians or not? If we sin we must confess it before God. Scripture says He will forgive. We are not saved if we still have sin. Sin is not remitted until baptism therefore we are not saved until baptism. I agree. Let the reader decide. |
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14 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Morant61 | 67168 | ||
Greetings Teacher! So, you do believe that a person who commits an act of sin is now unsaved and must confess and get resaved? What then is the basis of your salvation, if not your works? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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15 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 67196 | ||
The basis of salvation is the death of Christ on the cross. Until I come in contact with this death I am lost. I come in contact with this death through faith that Christ died for the sins of the world and that through him I am redeemed. This is an overview of salvation. There are more specific things that must be considered. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. So what is involved with believing? First and foremost we must believe in Christ. Who He is, what He did, and for what purpose. Luke 19:10 "For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost." In an earlier post you cited scripture containing the phrase "will be saved". Would you agree that the word "shall" is a form of "will" (Mk 16.16)? Matt 10:22, Mk 13:13 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved. Matt 24:13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. The account of Matthew includes these two phrases above. But it also contains, "Matt 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Matt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Matt 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. John 10:9 "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. John's account also includes John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jesus speaks of two "births" here, one of water (baptism), one of spirit, response to the gospel of Christ. Later in the text Jesus uses an example. John 3:14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. Those who were bitten by the serpents had to look upon the serpent Moses lifted up in order to be healed. Was it this act that saved them or their belief that they would be saved if they looked upon the serpent. If they didn't look upon the serpent with belief would they be healed? No. The same is with baptism. Those that are bitten by sin must be baptized before it is remitted (Acts 2.38, 22.16), believing it will be once they do. A sinner is not healed unless they do. Acts 2:21 'AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.' You stop short of the complete story. Acts 11:14 and he will speak words to you by which you will be saved, you and all your household.' We have already discussed this at length. Cornelius's salvation began when he was baptized. Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." Another example of stopping short of the complete story. What happens in vs 32, 33. The word of the Lord was spoken to them and they were baptized. Rom 5:9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him. Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." The same person who wrote the passages above in Romans also wrote Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who has died is freed from sin. When do we come in contact with Christ's death? When are we buried with him? When do we walk in newness of life? When do we become united with him? When is our old self crucified? When is our body of sin done away with? When are we freed from sin? When we are baptized. |
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