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1 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66821 | ||
To begin from the bottom up, the events in Acts 10, dealing with Cornelius and his household, are explained in Acts 10:45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. Context is of vital importance here to get the meaning of the events that take place. God's purpose was to show "those of the circumcision" that salvation was for all, Jew and Gentile alike, and if you read the entire chapter explaining Peter's visions and Cornelius', it should become evident. Yes, Cornelius and his household were baptized with the Holy Spirit prior to baptism, BUT, no where does it say they were saved at that point. Peter ordered them (10:38, NASB) to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, which in Acts 2:38 we are told is for the remission of sin. The events involving Cornelius are only a small part of the whole when it comes to determining the importance of baptism. We must look at the whole. It may "simply make sense logically, grammatically, and scripturally" to you but, if all the evidence of the bible is included in your understanding, it doesn't in God's plan. The command to be baptized could have been addressed to the crowd. In some translations it actually is. The New Revised Standard version says, "Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins may be forgiven; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." If the passage was worded, "Repent, and 'all of you' be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" it would have. Why it wasn't I don't know but I feel that obeying the commands of the Lord is an individual decision and by saying 'each one of you' may have made it more personal and emphasized the need for indeed, each one to obey. Regardless of translation, the message remains the same, repent AND be baptized FOR the remission of sin THEN you will receive the promise. The comments made by A. T. Robertson say nothing about baptism not being required for salvation. He says, "The first thing to do is make a radical and complete change of heart and life (which is repentance). Then let each one be baptized after this change has taken place (not before because it would be of no effect), and the act of baptism be performed "in the name of Jesus Christ"". It is strange that he omits the part about "for the remission of sin", which is the purpose of baptism, because without the performance of this act we do not come in contact with the death of Christ (Rom 6:4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 2 Col 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead)and therefore our sin is not remitted. You say, "I do need to make one clarification in your comments. The pronoun 'you' associated with 'each' is actually plural." The word "each" denotes singularity so couldn't we say "each one (singular) of you (the crowd, plural)? The command to be baptized would still apply, regardless. I don't know you well enough to make the determination of your scholastic achievements. Yep, we may be about the same age. |
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2 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | gracefull | 66835 | ||
I have not been involved in this discussion but you raised a point I must question. You said that although Cornelius household was baptized with the Holy Spirit the scripture does not say they were saved. I s that a correct assessment of your statement? Do you believe the Holy Spirit (the third person of the Godhead) would take up His abode in an unclean temple? There are many scriptures to refute this. I hope someone with more time than I have will take up this challenge. Let's look at Pentecost.. Were the disciples in the upper room born again? Or were the born again at the time of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit? Does the scripture say they were 'saved' or 'born again' or just that the Holy spirit fell on them? |
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3 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66908 | ||
Dear Gracefull, you asked, "Do you believe the Holy Spirit (the third person of the Godhead) would take up His abode in an unclean temple?" First of all, I do not believe that the Holy Spirit "takes up His abode" in any temple. I do, however, believe that "unclean" people, in this example Cornelius and his household, were "cleansed" by God in the sense that they did receive at least one spiritual gift in order to prove to Jewish Christians that salvation had come to ALL men. The fact that they did receive a gift(s) of the Holy Spirit does not negate the need for them to be baptized as Acts 10.48 clearly indicates. Second, Please list the scripure(s) refuting this. Third, the apostles in the upper room, I believe, had been baptized with John's baptism of repentance, but not yet baptized into Christ because Christ had not died yet. It wasn't until Christ died that John's baptism was nullified and baptism into Christ came into effect (Acts 19.1-5) |
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4 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | gracefull | 66912 | ||
Hi teacher, as I said, I have no leading to join this discussion. I was just wondering how you could come to your conclusion. You answered my question. Thanks |
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