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1 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Hank | 66220 | ||
Hello, Teacher. Please use Quick Search and type in ID #4073. This will lead you to a post I made some time ago upon the suject of the 'unpardonable sin.' It is of some length and I believe the search function is the better way to access it instead of my re-posting it. In any event, I hope the post will shed some additional light to you in your quest. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66308 | ||
Thank you. The information in this post is most helpful. What about those who believe in unconditional election though? If a person is elected by God to salvation yet blasphemes the H.S. how will it end? | ||||||
3 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Reformer Joe | 66319 | ||
You wrote: "What about those who believe in unconditional election though? If a person is elected by God to salvation yet blasphemes the H.S. how will it end?" One who is elected by God will not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. --Joe! |
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4 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Teacher | 66322 | ||
How do you know this? | ||||||
5 | Unforgivable sin | Romans | Reformer Joe | 66325 | ||
Because a companion doctrine to unconditional election is the one of perseverance (or preservation) of the saints. Reformed individuals such as myself believe that not only does God choose those who will believe and be saved, but also will, by His Spirit, keep them from falling away. That would preclude the truly saved from committing any unforgivable sin. --Joe! |
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6 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Teacher | 66328 | ||
Wouldn't God's action of "keep(ing) them from falling away" go against His giving man a free will to choose? | ||||||
7 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Robert Nicholson | 66340 | ||
Teacher: It has been said that we can choose our friends, but we cannot choose our family. We enter the family of God by faith in the finished work of Christ. The whole idea of "choice" when it comes to Christ and salvation is often misunderstood. The relationship between a person and God is permanent since it is God who has done the work through Christ and our family security is not dependent on our obedience, but is totally dependent on the work of Christ on the cross. It has been often said that a human choice does not save us, but resting faith on the finished work of Christ does. We must realize that in order for us to come to the understanding of the significance of the work of Christ, it must be a work of the Spirit of God. When the Spirit of God reveals this truth to a lost sinner, the choice part is our willingness to accept or rest upon what God has revealed to us. I believe it is a lie of the wicked one to give lost sinners the idea that they can be saved on their own terms and simply making a choice in their own time. In Romans 8:16 "The Spirit itself (Himself) beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ..." Often those who are children do not realize what a high calling is theirs. As with being in a natural family we can not choose to deny our roots, our DNA will always attach us to our parents, Likewise, in a Spiritual sense, we cannot choose to leave the family of God since we are indwelt by his Spirit and we are his forever. In both the natural and spiritual family relationships it is possible for members to lose contact, to turn against family members, to be estranged from our parents; however, the bottom line we still are children. It is wonderful to be a child of the King Robert |
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8 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Teacher | 66507 | ||
Thank you for your comments Robert. Yes, it is wonderful to be a child of the King, but I cannot agree with you that once a person has become one that he/she is one forever. I ask that you read 2 Peter chapter 2 and give me your comments on it. | ||||||
9 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Robert Nicholson | 66551 | ||
Greetings Teacher: I respect your opinion and know that his disagreement has been going on for years. The reason that I believe that one can know that they have eternal life is based simply upon the promises of Christ himself and God's word. I find that when we discuss this question that much of the disagreement is due to persective. Some would teach that we can be saved and then turn away and lose what God has given us in Christ. On the other hand, I believe that in the scriptures and in life we have people who make professions of faith in Christ and for a while they appear to walk, talk and act like a Christian. However, as time some will turn against Christ and there lost will be much like 2 Peter 2 in that they are the worst for ever knowing something of Christ in the first place. I do not think these people fell away, but that they were never born again in the first place. I know this is where the argument starts. In 2 Peter 2 we are being warned of false teachers v. 1 "who secretly brin in in damnable heresies, even deny the Lord who bought the, ..." I believe that these are apostates of the worst kind. I see an apostate as one who has been made aware of the truth, who seem to have grasped it and yet they turn away and pervert the truth. In 2 Peter 2: 4-20 we are given solemn warnings that God will judge such people. The characteristics of such teachers are: a) they are eloquent and deceptive v.3 b) there motive is self not for Christ v.3, v14 c) they walk after the flesh v.10 c) they have no respect for man or God v.10-11 e) they cannot cease from sin v.14 f) they are wells without water (water speaks of the Spirit of God. In. v. 21-22 we read a sad commentary which is based on the principle that God will judge according to that which we profess. In other words they profess to be teachers of righteousness and yet are agents of satan. Their later end is that they have defiled themselves to the point where they are without hope, they have totally given themselfs to evil and will be judged as such. I believe that in so called Christianity we have the wheat and the tares, the real and the unreal which Jesus referred to in Matt.7:21 "Not every one that saith Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven" However, to those who are saved through faith in the finished work of Christ Jesus said "They shall never perish" John 10:28, "...is passed from death unto life" John 5:24 "...should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16. Paul reminds us "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Cor. 5:17 John gives us the reason for the Holy Scriptures "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may believe on the name of the Son of God" 1 John 5:14 Peter writes that we are redeemed "...with the precious blood of Christ as a lamb without blemish and without spot" 1 Peter 1:19 I agree that a Christian cannot be perfect, that they will fail and fall, but within their heart the Holy Spirit will speak within their heart and they will have a desire to be right with God. We must remember that we are not clothed in our own righteousness, but in the righteousness of Christ. Peace in his name RobertTherefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. |
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10 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Henri | 66850 | ||
Robert, Thank you. You've provided an excellent response to Teacher's question. I must add that I believe that one can be saved, but still backslide during his/her life. That doesn't mean that they weren't really saved at the time though, just that there was seed sown in thorny ground (ref: Mark 4). It can happen to any of us, because we aren't perfected. If we fall out of the Word, we can all fall away from salvation. Satan will continually try us, because he knows that he has a chance of succeeding. As sowers of the Word, we must work to improve the ground (the heart) of such Christians so that they can again be redeemed to salvation. If successful, then the wayward, previously saved, individual will come back and rededicate themselves to Christ. The road to final salvation is a continual one. None of us have achieved final salvation until we actually go to heaven, which requires that we be in a state of grace in Jesus Christ at the time that we die -- not just right now. That's why it's so important for us to bring the prodigals home again, while there's still time for them. Praise Jesus, Henri |
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11 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | justme | 66855 | ||
Henri: May I encourage you to take a minuet and put a little about yourself in the Update User Info. That way we can answer you with a little better idea of what might be of help. I agree we are "being saved" and we are not transformed until we passon. However, I do not share your view that we do not achive salvation until actually get to heaven. Could you give some Biblical support for your view? We have the Holy Spirit who is our assurance of salvation. Being carnel (baksliden in never mentioned in the New Testament) is still being saved by Grace is it not? justme |
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12 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | Henri | 66870 | ||
Dear JustMe, Wow, what timing! I was actually just updating my profile, apparently while you were asking me to. Must've been the Holy Ghost. I took the time to look at your profile too before responding. Sorry, I can't give you Biblical reference for my view off the top of my head, but I think others have had this debate too -- even in this thread. I will say this. For my view, one has to recognize that we benefit from the Holy Spirit only if we pursue God. That's our part of the deal in the New Covenant. Even if there's no specific Biblical support for my view, which there indeed may not be, I also am not aware of any specific Biblical support for your view. As with some other issues of debate, the Bible may be silent on this specific point. However, I have seen people that were definitely saved, who have been turned away from God by severe temptations or circumstances manifested by Satan. I'm talking about some heavy stuff here, not just getting a little lazy in prayer or lax in church attendance. Fortunately, many of them eventually come back to the Body of Christ, but sadly others do not before they pass on. Does that mean that they weren't "really" saved before? I don't think so, having known a couple them so well before their fall. How does this happen? Because even after we're saved, God still honors our ability to make poor decisions. He can't do anything us because he gave us our free will. The most common way that this occurs is when a son or daughter of God suffers a grievious loss and then gets angry with God for "letting it happen". I understand that this won't happen to a saved individual who has asked Jesus to guide them through their will, but that same individual can take the exercise of their will back. I believe that I've seen this happen. With regard to your view, if a "really" saved individual is saved forever, then why does Satan waste his time with us once we've been saved? Henri |
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13 | Didn't God give man freedom of choice? | Romans | justme | 66981 | ||
Henri: Thanks for the profile, I enjoyed knowing reading about you. I know that what we think or believe is important to us. May I point out that what I think or believe is not a basis to form an opinion on what God's Word actually says. I want to give you the chance to grow spiritually, and seek out the verses that prove what you believe. We can then DIALOGUE, not argue, over what difference we may see. You are correct there has been a bunch of threads but they mostly get dead locked when respect, changes to dogma, and love changes to bitterness. I would be willing to exchange some food for thoughts on a respectfull kind dialogue. Of course that is if you so desire. Think it over. I am around about every day or so. Blessings. justme |
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