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NASB | Romans 7:19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 7:19 For the good that I want to do, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. |
Subject: Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus |
Bible Note: Greetings John! Thanks for the responses my friend! Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I don't want to beat a dead horse, so just allow me to close this discussion with a couple of brief comments about the present tense in Rom. 7. I disagree with the article for two main reasons. 1) First of all, the historical present is a well recognized use of the present tense in the Greek language. To say that Rom. 7:14-25 could be an example of an historical present is not a stretch or special pleading. It is an appeal to a very familiar use of the present tense. 2) Secondly, I disagree with article because the verses I have been citing are also in the present tense. For example, Rom. 6:6 - "For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—". Here, 'no longer slaves' is in the present tense. Which of course bring us back to my original question, 'How can Paul say in chapter 6 that believers are no longer slaves to sin, but then say in chapter 7 that believers are slaves to sin?" This is what I was referring to when I mentioned taking Scriptures at face value. We can't simply ignore chapter six and accept chapter seven. We can't accept a theory that makes chapter seven true, but chapter six false. Well, I have to run. My daughter is due to give birth any time now. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |