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NASB | Matthew 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 7:23 "And then I will declare to them publicly, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME [you are banished from My presence], YOU WHO ACT WICKEDLY [disregarding My commands].' [Ps 6:8] |
Subject: What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? |
Bible Note: Greetings Greg! Thanks for the response! The points you made are exactly opposite of the Scripture references which I cited in my last post to you. Eph. 2:8-10 makes it perfectly clear that it our salvation is not based upon our works. Romans and Galatians also both make it clear that the Law cannot, and never could, save. That God has provided another means of righteous, that is grace. Would you please respond to the Scriptures which I posted? :-) Now, on to your verses! :-) You cite Heb. 5:9 as an example, but notice that there is no mention of obedience to the Law. It says only those who listen to Him. In fact, the words 'obey' and 'Law' are only found 4 times in the same verse in the New Testament. In Acts 15:5, the Judaizers wanted to require that Gentiles must obey the Law, but the early church council did not grant that request. In Rom. 2:13, obedience to the Law is mentioned for rigtheousness. However, Paul immediately goes on to show that no do in fact obey that Law. Finally, they are both mentioned in Gal. 5:3 and 6:13. The Gal. 5:3 passage is especially relevant to this discussion. Gal. 5:2 - "Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." Notice that Paul does not want these Christians to be circumcised because to do so would mean that they are then 'obligated' to obey the whole Law. To Paul, this was a bad thing. In verse 4, he says that this means that one is alienated from Christ. Now, in light of these verses, how can one make the case that Paul believed that obedience to the Torah was necessary for salvation? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |