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1 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | Reformer Joe | 27668 | ||
What Scripture do you have to support your methods? How can you becertain that you are indeed praying in a tongue and not merely babbling nonsense? I certainly could open my mouth and let it form "whatever sound comes out," but I would be silly to think that that is speaking in tongues. This is a Bible study forum. Please support your point of view with the Bible. Thanks! --Joe! |
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2 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | ashestobeauty | 27670 | ||
How can you be sure you are really saved? It cannot be reasoned out it takes faith. "only believe". :o) You either believe or you doubt it. Those who believe will reap the benefits, those who doubt will not. Your choice. But I can tell you I'm living proof that "the babbling" works and can be a powerful tool in your walk with God, should you choose to "believe". I choose to be "A Babbling Fool for Him" |
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3 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | Hank | 27674 | ||
Ashestobeauty, an extract from your post reads as follows: "How can you be sure you are really saved? It cannot be reasoned out it takes faith, 'only believe'." ...... Now I cannot say that I patently disagree with your thesis. I don't disagree but feel that it needs to be sharpened with a clearer biblical definition of the kind of faith that leads to salvation. It cannot be denied, for example, that many followers of pagan religions have deep faith -- faith sufficiently strong to persuade them to give their very lives for a cause they consider just. But they are as lost as a goose in a snow storm. The Christian faith is not a blind faith; there is a sense in which it can certainly be "reasoned out." So come now, and let us reason together. John wrote a careful, reasonable Gospel. In it (20:30,31) he says, "And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name." John wrote his book, a carefully documented book that, being reasonable, appeals to reason, in order to present cogent reasons to believe that Jesus is who He claimed to be. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, and we must conclude that the word of God is either reasonable or else it is unreasonable, and few have ever considered it unreasonable....... And in his first epistle (1 John 5:13) he has removed the guesswork about our salvation: "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know you have eternal life..." Therefore, the status of our salvation certainly can be "reasoned out" quite clearly. If we are clearly the sheep of His pasture, we know that we have eternal life through Him...... About the "babbling" you state that you are living proof that it works and can be a powerful tool in one's walk with God. On occasion I've babbled, but never in a spiritual sense; thus I am not familiar with the practice. So please enlighten me. Exactly how does it "work" and how specifically is it a powerful tool in your walk with God? --Hank | ||||||
4 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | ashestobeauty | 27726 | ||
Hi Hank, First let me say that my goal is not to offend anyone or change anyone’s view on this topic it was simply to try to help someone that asked a question. So, after this answer I will not be getting into any debate with anyone over the issue. First let me define "babbling": The reason I used that word was because Joe quoted speaking in tongues as "babbling nonsense” otherwise known as: Your heavenly language or speaking in tongues. The fact that salvation is offered and available can be reasoned out, but we are discussing the evidence of it, which comes through having faith and believing. It is a gift, not based on our good works, given by grace. We simply have to choose to believe that something that wonderful is free and for us. Same with Speaking in tongues. There will always be debates on this topic (of which I really do not care to get into) What I was trying to do is encourage someone who would like to have it. And in my statement that it is powerful in my life I would say that, just as in salvation, "you shall know them by their fruit". I am a changed person because of it. I used to be very independent and needed no one, I did everything in my own strength and only included God in MY PLAN when needed. I hurt a lot of people and offended many along the way. To the point of almost loosing my husband and ending up divorced. I tried to change myself, looked into counseling, and read a lot. But what helped the most was my times spent just "talking in tongues". When I was down and wanted to give up... this would build up my spirit man When I was in a bind and did not know what to pray for, I would just talk in tongues and God would show me what to do, when to do it and how. When my heart was troubled but I had no idea why, I would talk in tongues and a peace would come over me. When I would deal with issues about me and things I needed to change I would go before him and talk in my heavenly language and get incite and direction as to how HE was changing me, and I simply needed to abide in Him. So, to answer your question "how specifically is it a powerful tool in your walk with God" It has brought about change in me and my life, much faster and to a more effective degree than any book, councilor, tape, or support group ever could. It is one thing to have the Holy Spirit "dwelling in you" but you go to a whole other level when you allow Him to work in you, one of the ways to do this is through taking advantage of your gift of "speaking in tongues". You are giving Him Power to work in and through you. That's the power I was referring to. P.S. Because of the power of God’s Holy Spirit in me and the fact that I took advantage of the Gift of speaking in tongues, I am still married and happier than I’ve ever been, and I acctually WANT TO be a submissive wife and work in unity with my husband (that's proof of the power!), God is blessing our Ministry and it is growing, and I am a changed person who allows God to be in control of my life. I still “slip up” every now and then, but I simply go back to the closet, spend time with Him, and “babble” as needed :o). |
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5 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | Hank | 27774 | ||
Ashestobeauty, two final short questions, if you will permit me, regarding your experiences of speaking in tongues. (1) Do you initiate these experiences (sessions) yourself or does some agent (Spirit?) outside yourself initiate them? (2) Do you or does anyone else understand what you are saying when you are thus engaged? --Hank | ||||||
6 | when you talk to God... | Acts 2:6 | ashestobeauty | 27776 | ||
When you talk to God in English, Do you initiate that experience yourself? :o) As far as understanding what is being said, My Spirit is talking to God it doesn't matter if my mind understands it or not. There are times though when I will also say some words in English and that will bring clarity to what I am praying for or about. I do believe that God can work through people who have the ministry Gift of Speaking In Tongues and then interpreting in a service setting, and give them the ability to speak in foreign languages so that someone who is from another country, will understand what they are saying. I've heard of that happening. But in my own time with God I simply speak from my spirit at times, and it's not in English. Most of the time I pray in English but there are times when I use the gift of tongues. One question for you, what is your motive for asking all these questions? I do not mind sharing my heart with someone who is genuinely interested in the topic and willing to agree to disagree, but if your motive is to prove me wrong or get me to "slip up" by something I say then let's end it here. |
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7 | when you talk to God... | Acts 2:6 | Hank | 27780 | ||
Ashestobeauty: I do not impugn your motives and trust that I have not given you valid reason to impugn mine. As I have said before so say I again: It has never been my practice to speak in tongues nor have I had occasion to converse on the subject with anyone who does. My questions merely were to seek information on the subject, haply the better to understand it. It is not my business to "prove" you or anyone wrong; that authority is not vested in me. And I derive no pleasure in trying to trip up anyone. I do thank you for your efforts in answering my questions and can understand your having questions about my questions. Please take solace in my assurance to you that I have neither sinister motives nor hidden agenda. A merry and Christ-centered Christmas wish to you and your family. --Hank | ||||||
8 | when you talk to God... | Acts 2:6 | ashestobeauty | 27781 | ||
Just feeling a little "beaten" down right now. Forgive me if I'm on the defense :o) I love to talk about God's word and the wonderful Things He has done. And I don’t mind at all sharing why I believe what I believe as long as all involved in the conversation, communicate with respect and brotherly love. At times I have not felt that in some of the responses I have received from others. So I just wanted to clarify where this conversation was going. Thanks. |
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