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1 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | Taleb | 73872 | ||
Greg, Do you believe EVERYTHING Paul wrote? Many take a verse here or there, and skim right over all the clues spelled out. Your quote, “Yahweh states in Genesis 26:5 that his seed is blessed “because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws," gave me the CLUE that perhaps you don’t believe everything. Where is “Yahweh” first mentioned in Scriptures? Exodus 6:2 explained that until Moses, nobody had ever heard of Yahweh. In effect, God said, “Moses, I’m Yahweh, I appeared to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as El Shaddai, but by my name Yahweh I did not make myself known to them." Like so many other verses in the Scriptures, translators use a blanket "God, Lord, etc." in place of the "dozens of names" God refers to Himself, according to His multiple "characteristics” He wants to convey. So for you to say, “Yahweh states in Genesis 26:5 that his seed is blessed “because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws," isn’t entirely true, right? Am I being too technical? Sound familiar? Also, since you brought it up, Galatians 3:15-25 · You wrote: “Ratifying another contract does not do away with the previous contract. Thus the Mosaic covenant did not nullify the Abrahamic covenant received by faith. The law was given to show what sin is, to show our need for a Savior and to point the way to Messiah. Once a child reaches adulthood does he forget all the do’s and don’ts he was taught growing up? No, he understands the reasons behind the do’s and don’ts more fully and is more able to keep them with the right motives.” Paul wrote: 3:18-19 “If the inheritance is BY the law, then it is NO LONGER by promise. Why then was the law given? It was added to show sins in their true light UNTIL the “Offspring” should come concerning whom the promise was made.” Who is this offspring concerning whom the promise was made? Back up to 3:15. (This “ties” in with your statement, “Yahweh states in Genesis 26:5 that his seed is blessed “because Abraham obeyed me …”) Paul writes, “But the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his offspring (means it was also spoken to Abraham’s offspring). It does not say, ‘And to the offsprings,' in the plural, but in the singular, ‘And to your offspring’, which is Christ.” Chapter three ends with the wonderful words that fit everything in their place. “But if you are Christ’s then you are the offspring of Abraham, you are heirs in agreement with the promise.” Not in agreement with obeying the law. One must understand the HUGE differences between God’s “commandments” AND His "law" to understand Jesus' response in your own quote, Matthew 19:16-17 “And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?…but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.” Peace, Taleb |
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2 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 73889 | ||
Taleb, It must be late, I almost completely missed your point about Yahweh. When I am writing Yahweh and YHWH to me they are the same as Mr. and Mister. Quote:"So for you to say, “Yahweh states in Genesis 26:5 that his seed is blessed “because Abraham obeyed me and kept my requirements, my commands, my decrees and my laws," isn’t entirely true, right?" SURE IT IS. The Creator is referred to 141 times in Genesis alone as YHWH (Strong's 3068). If you have a concordance handy please read Genesis 15:7 "And he SAID unto him, I am the LORD (3068) that brought thee (Abram) out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it." One of many times, evidently there is more that needs to be uncovered regarding Exodus 6:2. Isaiah 8:20 "To the law (Torah) and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is NO LIGHT in them." John 8:12 "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I AM THE LIGHT of the world: he that FOLLOWETH me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. If you believe what the Old Testament is telling us, anyone who speaks against the "law and the testimony" is in darkness. Law and commandment are relational just as "Torah"(8451) and "mitzpat" (4687). One does not replace the other, one comprises the other. "Hey Israel remember those 4,000 years well I was only kidding. I have found a new, special breed of people that believe I exist just like the demons do. Back when Adam sinned I was a real stickler but now that I have changed sin can abide in my presence. Although I designed the earth and created certain animals for food and others for garbage collection, that's all changed now. Yes go ahead eat ham on easter in honor of me. Pretend I told you to celebrate my birthday on the winter soltice don't worry about it being the known birthday of a pagan sungod. Those festivals I said to celebrate forever, I really did not mean forever, although we will start it back up during the millenium. Best of all now you get to spend eternity doing whatever you want, whenever you want. Yep, ignore the other 64 books of the Bible and just focus on Paul. I asked too much of you before, things are different now. " Isaiah 30:9 "...this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law (Torah) of the LORD:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us SMOOTH THINGS (rapture), prophesy deceits (once saved always saved):11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us." Shalom, Greg Boone |
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3 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | Taleb | 73990 | ||
Greg, sorry about not getting back right away. My schedule is not always conducive to my desires. Thank you Greg, for your response to my earlier post, last Friday. It demonstrates perfectly where some problems you are having are coming from. (But then it was late). Apparently, you skim over, rather than read. Otherwise, why did you conclude: “You do not have to believe Paul is an unbeliever to explain his writings. I ask you why do you think the following statement made its way into the Bible, realizing whom the author really is?” How did you arrive at such a conclusion? I wrote: “While he (my relative) KNEW the book of Hebrews specifically denounced his logic (?), he refused to accept that writing because he claimed Paul was an unbeliever.” This time through, did you notice, it was my relative who had a problem with Paul? If not, slow down, take a deep breath, slowly let it out. Again. Again. There, now the blood should flow easier and that should make it easier for you to understand the simple basics of God’s word. Reread the above paragraph. Your questioning the facts about Yahweh not being in Scripture prior to Exodus is understandable. A lot of other people are surprised about that fact too. (Especially the JW’s. who over uses the name (?) Jehovah.) Just now, I checked out a “reliable source’ – The Jewish Encyclopedia (something I’ve recently discovered), it agrees with what I have learned over the years. While the “reasons” Genesis “seems to use” that name are fewer than the reasoning behind the truth that, like I said, Adam up to Moses never heard, nor spoke it, stands firm. Quoted about Yhwh: “This name, according to the narrative in Ex. iii. it was made known to Moses in a vision at Horeb. In another, parallel narrative (Ex. vi. 2, 3, P) it is stated that the name was not known to the Patriarchs. It is used by one of the documentary sources of Genesis, but scarcely if at all by the others. Its use is avoided by some later writers also. It does not occur in Ecclesiastes, and in Daniel is found only in ch. ix.” To give you a glimpse of some my reason for mentioning about Yahweh, like so many other verses in the Scriptures, the “English” translators too often use a blanket "God, Lord, etc." in place of the "dozens of names" God refers to Himself, according to His multiple "characteristics” He wants to convey. So, Exodus 6:2 remains what it remains. And like all other truth, it doesn’t matter if one believes it or not. Your statement: “Law and commandment are relational just as "Torah"(8451) and "mitzpat" (4687). One does not replace the other, one comprises the other,” --- gives me another clue about where some of your problem flows from. One MUST understand the HUGE differences between God’s “commandments” AND His "law", as I mentioned before. He “commanded” Adam, Noah, Abraham, etc. long before He “laid down any laws”. His commands didn’t offer the exceptions that His laws did. (“Under this or that situation, do this or that, under the other, do the other” type laws, is what I mean here.) His commands never deviated. His laws often did. More to come, Taleb |
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4 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 74028 | ||
Taleb, Heuristic #1: The first conclusion you jump to is not necessarily the correct one. When I said "You do not have to believe Paul is an unbeliever to explain his writings" I was separating myself from your relative. He said Paul was an unbeliever, I say he was a believer---separation. A little more reflection would have spared us both 3 paragraphs. Quote:"Your questioning the facts about Yahweh not being in Scripture prior to Exodus is understandable. A lot of other people are surprised about that fact too. (Especially the JW’s. who over uses the name (?) Jehovah.)" Taleb, I clearly stated, "The Creator is referred to 141 times in Genesis alone as YHWH (Strong's 3068)." Hueristic #2: "slow down, take a deep breath, slowly let it out. Again. Again. There, now the blood should flow easier and that should make it easier for you to understand the simple basics" of the English language. Enough. I do not want to banter with you Taleb, it is non-productive. Here are the two witnesses: Exodus 6:2 "And God (0430) spake (01696) unto Moses, (04872) and said (0559) unto him, I am the LORD: (03068)" Genesis 15:7 "And he said (0559) unto him, I am the LORD (03068) that brought thee out (03318) of Ur (0218) of the Chaldees, (03778) to give (05414) thee this land (0776) to inherit (03423) it." If you look up the Strong's number (3068) next to LORD it will show YHWH. Admittedly, the reason for a discrepancy may be where the vowel points are placed but it is YHWH. I am trying to respond to your "law vs commandment" but I am not sure I understand it. All I was saying about law/commandment vs Torah/mitzpat was just as we have a "Bill of Rights" (law/Torah) it is comprised of individual rights such as "to bear arms" (commandment/mitzpat) Taleb, I welcome a productive discussion of anything that concerns you. By the way, I sense you may think I am a JW, I am not. Greg Boone |
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