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1 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | Morant61 | 74317 | ||
Greetings Greg! I say this will all due respect my friend, but this is an example of going to great lengths to explain away a clear statement of Scripture with which you don't agree. You have been arguing that Christians are still bound by an eternal covenant with Israel (including obedience to the Torah). Yet, Heb. 8:13 says, "By calling this covenant ??new,? he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." This verse doesn't say that the first covenant was renewed. It says that it is obsolete. Further, Heb. 8:7 says that there was something wrong with the first covenant, "For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another." Thus, Heb. 8:8 says that He will make a 'new' covenant with His people. 'Kainos' does not refer to a re-newed covenant, but a different kind of covenant. Heb. 8:9 makes a distinction between the first covenant and the second covenant. My position has always been that the more someone has to explain away the meaning of a text, the more likely that person is wrong. These statements are clear. One cannot make 'new' to mean 're-newed', especially when the covenants are referred to as first and second and contrasted throughout the passage. Concerning Hebrews, there isn't any historical evidence that it was written in Hebrew - not that it would make any difference either way! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 75095 | ||
Tim, What is YHWH writing on our hearts and minds in the New Covenant? Keeping it simple, Greg Boone |
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3 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | Morant61 | 75116 | ||
Greetings Greg! I'll try to keep it simple as well my friend! :-) Hebrews never specifically says what will be written on our hearts. However, I can assume that it will not be the contents of the old, obsolete covenant, but rather the contents of the new, better covenant. This in and of itself is in opposition to your believe that we are still bound to keep the old covenant! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 75888 | ||
Dear Tim, The writer of Hebrews is quoting the “old testament” just as Yeshua did, Paul did, Peter did, etc. In fact, we have no scriptural evidence for a Promised Redeemer apart from the “old testament”. In other words, if it were not for the numerous prophetic verses in the “old testament” that point to Yeshua how would we know that He is whom He said He is? We could not. It would be like a Mormon coming to you and saying the “new testament” has been replaced because I just had a vision, etc, etc. and everything else has been rendered obsolete. How far will that sail? That is why the “old testament” serves as our eternal foundation and everything in it will come to pass. Amos 3:7 “Surely the Lord GOD WILL DO NOTHING, but HE REVEALETH His secret unto His servants the prophets.” Isaiah 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony(OLD TESTAMENT): if they speak not according to this word (TORAH), it is because there is no light in them.” Matthew 5:18 “…one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Old Testament), till all be fulfilled. We cannot have it both ways: The “old testament” is applicable when it fits my theology but obsolete when it does not. With that said, the writer of Hebrews is quoting Jeremiah 31, Jeremiah 31:33 “But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law (Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Hebrews 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws (Torah) into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:” This is outright plagiarism. YHWH should sue. Imagine bringing obsolete Old Testament concepts into the nice grace-filled New Testament. Of course I am being facetious. But then the question becomes why is YHWH writing Torah in our hearts if that old burden has been done away with? Isaiah 46:10 “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” Show me the scripture where it has been “REVEALED” that the Torah will be made obsolete. You will not be able to. "This in and of itself is in opposition to your believe that we are still bound to keep the old covenant! :-)" Not close. Bear with me and I will show you why you are standing on sinking sand. We must love the truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10) Greg Boone |
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5 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | Morant61 | 75891 | ||
Greetings Greg! My friend, I have shown you numerous times, but you contine to ignore what the verses say. One more time, Heb. 8:13 - "By calling this covenant ??new,? he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." What did this verse call the old covenant? Answer is: What is obsolete? To which old covenant is He referring? Heb. 8:9 says that it was the one He made with Israel when He led them out of Egypt. You wrote: "Matthew 5:18 ??one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law (Old Testament), till all be fulfilled." But, Scripture tells us that all things have been fulfilled in Christ. This is why Paul said: Rom. 10:4 - " Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes." Now, you said that I could not one Scripture which says that it is obsolete, but Heb. 8:13 uses that exact word. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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