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1 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 73950 | ||
Hi Hank, If you could point to something specifically where I am scripturally in error it would be more helpful. I realize there may be an emotional attachment to your beliefs, but we should let Biblical reality guide us to the truth. I prefer not to label myself because labels bring up to many too many negative connations. However, I would describe myself as a truth-seeker. My purpose is to, hopefully, lead others to see the scriptures in a different light. A light that does not contradict itself across testaments and is historically and culturally sound. I welcome you to the discussion Hank. Greg Boone |
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2 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | stjones | 73963 | ||
Hi, Greg; Hank has asked a valid question. Christians may, as Paul did at Athens, engage non-Christians in theological discussions. But Christians are unlikely to take instruction about Jesus from anyone but another Christian. There are many reasons, but the simplest is this: If you confess Jesus as your sole lord and savior, you are at least implying that your thoughts and desires are captive to him. If you confess Jesus, you suggest that your studies are guided not just by intellect, history, and culture, but by the Holy Spirit himself. If your "different light" is not shed by the Holy Spirit, it is of no more than passing intellectual interest to Christians. A confessing Christian is indeed labeled. To the world, the label is just a category. To the Christian, however, it is a seal given by God, it is an admission of sin and dependence on Jesus. It is a badge of honor given to the unworthy, to be worn with humility, in the knowledge that it given only by the grace of God through the shed blood of Christ. But it is to be worn boldly. The label you gave yourself is "truth-seeker". Jesus said he was the truth (John 14:6). He is the origin of all truth and the pathway to all truth. Paul, referring to the ability to understand sprititual truths, said "we have the mind of Christ." (1 Cor 2:16) Without the mind of Christ, spiritual truths are nonsense; any who have the mind of Christ bear the label "Christian". So I echo Hank's question - are you a Christian? Thanks. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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3 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 73986 | ||
Hi Steve, I hope you don't mind but I am going to respond with the same answer I gave Hank. "Again, this is the problem with labels. I believe that the Son of YHWH came to earth as a Jewish Rabbi and taught us how to live, died for our transgressions of the law/Torah, i.e. sins (1John 3:4) and will judge every human being based on His revealed will to us (Torah and any additional commandments from the sermon on the mount). If by being Christian you mean am I a pork-eating, Sabbath-breaking, replacement theologist who ignores the Biblical festivals in favor of man-made pagan rituals (xmas, easter, etc.)?---No, I am not. See what I mean about labels? I will say that my roots were in Protestant Christianity, but I heard the call of Revelation 18:4 "... Come out of her (the Babylonian whore), my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues". Hopefully this answers your question of how to label me and maybe you will answer the call as well. Did you know that there are over 22,000 different demoninations within Christianity? "Every plant (doctrine), which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.(Matthew 15:13)" Greg Boone |
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4 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | John Reformed | 73995 | ||
My Dear Gibbon, "Again, this is the problem with labels. I believe that the Son of YHWH came to earth as a Jewish Rabbi"...HE CAME AS A SAVIOUR..." and taught us how to live,"...HE TAUGHT US THAT WE NEEDED HIM..." died for our transgressions of the law/Torah, i.e. sins (1John 3:4) and will judge every human being based on His revealed will to us (Torah and any additional commandments from the sermon on the mount)."...WRONG! HE FULFILLED THE LAW ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO PLACE FAITH IN HIM. JESUS SAID: "FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER, THAT EVERYONE WHO BEHOLDS THE SON AND BELIEVES IN HIM WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE...". The gospel is simple not complex. Your chances of persuading a true believer of returning to the bondage of the law is nil. John Reformed |
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5 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | gjboone | 74033 | ||
John, I notice you did not give one scripture reference. However, I can show conclusively that Yeshua (Jesus) did not fulfill the "law", at least yet. Matthew 5:17 "THINK NOT that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. "THINK NOT", in other words, do not let the thought of the law and the prophets being abolished enter your mind. Nothing of the law will pass away until everything written in it is fulfilled. Luke 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is THIS SCRIPTURE FULFILLED in your ears. Yeshua is reading from Isaiah 61:1-2a and then He closes the book and declares 61:1-2a is fulfilled. If we read the rest of the verses we know that not ALL of it has been fulfilled. Isaiah 61:2b "and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.", etc. Has any of this happened? No, then all of the "law or the prophets" is not fulfilled. Therefore not one jot or tittle has passed from the “law”. Ezekiel chapters 40-48 talk about how the Sabbaths, New Moons and sacrifices will be done during the millennium. John, where am I missing it? Bear in mind Who is speaking now: Matthew 5:19 “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments (of Torah), and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” A watchman is only required to sound the shofar, it is incumbent upon the hearer to act (Ezekiel 33:4). Greg Boone |
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6 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | John Reformed | 74087 | ||
Dear Greg, Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF... " As long as we foolishly attempt to pit one verse against another (as if one annuled or contradicted the the other) we will not come to an understanding of the truth of the matter. You claim: "I can show conclusively that Yeshua (Jesus) did not fulfill the "law", at least yet." You then cited Matt 5:17,18 as your proof text: "THINK NOT that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled. Now, my understanding of the passage is that Jesus, in v.17, clearly states that He came not to destroy but to fulfill the law. You, on the other hand (basing your reason on v. 18) believe that he has yet to finish His work because He also said that "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till ALL be fulfilled". On it's face, v.18 appears in contradiction to v. 17, and because of your desire to harmonize the two verses you have come to the conclusion that Jesus must mean His final fulfillment of the Law will not be complete until Heaven and Earth pass away. As I see it, your conclusion on Matt 17,18 puts you in conflict, not only with the teaching of the church down through the centuries, but, most importantly with many other passages from Scripture. Perhaps, God willing, we may reason together and reach an understanding that does harmonize Matthew 5:17,18 with Galatians, Hebrews and others. What if we take the Lord's meaning to be that He, personaly, did fulfill the Law but that only those who believe in Him derive the benefit of having His righteousness imputed to them? And all the "unbelievers", come Judgement Day, will stand guilty before God because of their failure to obey the commadments of the Law, of which not one jot or tittle have passed away. We, who believe, are "in Christ". Those who attempt to justify their sins by claiming to be "in Christ" but do not hate their sin and are unrepentent are self-decieved and to them He will say: "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.' ( Matt 7:23 ) Your Thoughts? John Reformed |
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7 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | mbooker | 74094 | ||
Hi Brother John As I had been reading thru this thread, Matt 22:37-40 came to mind: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Gal 5:14 and Matt 22:37-40 seem to compliment each other quite nicely :) Grace and peace to you Brother Meredith |
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8 | What is iniquity in Matthew 7:23? | Matt 7:23 | John Reformed | 74097 | ||
Amen Sister Meredith, The Law will not pass away until all is fulfilled. But praise Jesus, He has fulfilled it on the behalf of all who are in Him. 2 Cor 5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. John |
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