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1 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | hobbs | 169032 | ||
Hi Doc, 26 years ago God called me to Himself. I as excited and happy as a person could be. I actually thought that my days of sinning were behind me. I was now a Saint! Oh how grand it was for a season. It did'nt last. Before I knew it sin had regained a foothold in life once again. Of course now I had a different reaction to sin than before I knew Christ. I hated my loving of it! No matter how I tried I could not free myself from it's hold. Now don't get me wrong Doc... I was not the man I was, but neither was I than man I had hoped to be either. For years I struggled to be more like the people in the pentacostal church I attended. They appeard to me to be living the victorious life, they had mountain moving faith. We even had a speaker who proclaimed that she had'nt sinned in months. To make a long story short, scandal broke out and boy was it messy...I packed up and stayed shy of church period. I thought I was the lousy sinner! I could'nt hold a candle to these folks. 10 years later, God graciously led me back and planted me in a church that (I have come to believe) proclaims the gospel and teaches sound doctrine. The doctrines of grace changed my life. I said all of that Doc to say this...I love you but ( in my not so humble opinion) you are making a big mistake by backing off on Romans 7. I say this because I am a Romans 7 christian. I identify with Paul the sinner. To follow a diffent path one may find themselves actually believing that they may have something to add to the work of Christ, in my view a disastrous course indeed! I'm nowhere near the scholar you are Doc...but even a blind pig finds a turnip once in awhile. John |
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2 | Paul's evil practices Pre or PostJesus | Rom 7:19 | DocTrinsograce | 169036 | ||
Dear John, I agree with your assessment of our heart condition before the Lord. I've long used this particular passage to argue that point as well. However, after reading it through about thirty times, diagraming the sentences, observing the use of pronouns and various other phrases used in the previous chapters, I have changed my position. However, I have not changed my position regarding the doctrine of progressive sanctification nor the presence of sin in the life of the believer during the present life. (These doctrines are clearly addressed elsewhere.) I simply believe that the majority of Romans 7 is autobiographical, pre-conversion. Furthermore, the antidote for the struggle that you describe and that we all share is still Romans 8. Frankly, the fact that you are having a struggle is evidence of the Holy Spirit's work in your life as one of the redeemed. It is a tough struggle. But I'm persuaded that the Holy Spirit does more than reveal sin and instruct us in the Word. If you'll permit me to use the expression, I think that He has His sleeves rolled up and He's getting His hands dirty. In other words, He is actively working moment by moment to conform us into the image of Christ. Now, I could be making a mistake. I've made quite a few in my life! I want my hermeneutics to be as sound as possible. It is my opinion that this interpretation of Romans 7 is superior. I do not believe that it changes our doctrine. All that written, I have to admit my rotundity and extremely poor eyesight. :-) In Him, Doc |
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